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The right time to fix this problem was a few decades ago, but there's still time to solve the problem.
You just need harsher more drastics measures now. The clock is ticking.

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@Zeb @cjd @Bernard The western Canadian province of Alberta has something of an independence movement that is still finding its feet. There is a lot involved, of course, for that to ever happen.

But there is a large push back from some within Alberta and Canadians in general against this ever happening. Loss of resources, loss of face, issues with the feather indians. Just the very idea of Canada breaking up.

Here's an article and image from a recent "Forever Canada" event in Alberta arguing against breakup.

Just look at the people there and their faces. Just look at them. JFC.

https://www.westernstandard.news/opinion/macleod-the-f...

@petra @Bernard @cjd
From a surface analysis, I see two, maybe 3 net tax payers that adds more to society than they take away from it.
I would assume those net tax payers benefit from keeping Canada together because it's either beneficial to their business or are gov contractors, so that's why they're there.

The rest are takers who are simply afraid their welfare and government benefits will be cut, plus a few useless eaters.

Now, how do the separatists look like? Are they more capable?

@Zeb @Bernard @cjd They are predominantly White, rural and self employed. Generally Heritage Canadians with regional roots going back generations. Because of the recent influx of younger "new canadians" in the last decade or two, who are strongly federalist and against separation, this pushes the number of retirees, boomers and genX higher as proportion. But it's still strong among younger genuine Canadians.

It's what you would expect.

@petra @Bernard @cjd
Then the government is doing exactly what I would do in their place:
Fear monger on tv, crackdown on anyone with ideas in the cities, ignore the young heritage male canadians but don't antagonize them, not really.
As long as their lifes are not inconvenienced enough, they won't do anything.

Which is ironic, if the leeches turn violent and attack the white rural men, they will cause their own downfall. The gov has to keep them on a tight leash.

There's a perspective on the "banning private car ownership", "15 minute cities", etc that is really just about putting all of the bullshit into a box so that it doesn't interfere with the countrymen doing what they do...

Very interesting. I hadn't considered that perspective but I can see the vision.
I don't know if it's accidental or on purpose, but it would favorably both for the gov were they would have their slave cities as well as for the rural men who could reasonably insulate themselves from the faggotry.

It's too risky though. I wouldn't bet on it. Thinking about what could they do to tip the scales will be a good exercise.

The problem is this is a resource constraint issue, so you can't solve it in a way that will make everybody happy.

The only real way out of this is it goes kinetic, a LOT of people die, and then the people remaining draw up a new social contract.

But (almost) nobody is excited by the prospect of a civil war that will almost certainly be protracted and painful for everyone - and people like to lie to themselves, so everyone's running around pretending that MAYBE like AI will save the day or something and this problem will just magically stop being a problem...

You're right, but most people coping and hoping for an external savior that will never come is not feasible.

There's no way to make everybody happy. Eventually men will have to ignore everyone's feeling and work on (re)building a society that works, grows and is able to solve difficult problems by itself.

It's quite hard to know how the new social contract will be since we aren't sure who will survive the purge, but resilience and courage will become mandatory by default. Pain will ensure it.

You can probably look to something like Constantin's salvation of the Eastern Roman Empire as a model. But computers and internet do change things quite a lot...
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