— I have to ask critically about territorial integrity, because in 2014 you yourself were in #Moscow, met Vladimir #Putin there, and advocated exchanges between #Germany and #Russia. Was that a mistake? — That was a great mistake. Former Siemens CEO Joe Kaeser laments his past misjudgments and falls in line with the current narrative on German television: It is impossible to negotiate with Russia under its current leadership; nor should one buy gas from Russia—one can do nothing.