Honda Retreats To Hybrids After Failed EV Bet Triggers Record $9 Billion Loss https://tech.slashdot.org/story/26/05/15/0244239/honda-retreats-to-hybrids-after-failed-ev-bet-triggers-record-9-billion-loss?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon

@slashdot Read my lips... for regular people the technology is not yet mature. Maybe in 5-10 years, maybe.

@h4890 @slashdot Garbage. EVs work great. Even hybrids are amazing. There's a guy local here who just filled up his tank for the first time this year last week. Beats the hell out of more war in the middle east for oil

@jeffcliff @slashdot Nope. Not if you live in a country with winter, without places to charge them. Add to that, that they cost about 1.5-2x of the equivalent gasoline driven car, have less range, and over their life cycle, destroy the environment more.

In their current shape, they are nothing but a con.

@h4890 @slashdot buddy i live in canada. they are great in the winter, the 'not good in winter' thing is pure FUD

> Add to that, that they cost about 1.5-2x of the equivalent gasoline driven car,

...until you factor in the cost of gas

And the 'have less range' advantage is getting awful thin. For hybrids it's almost nonexistent.

the *ONLY* question is 'without places to charge them' which, in north america, is a narrowing area with time and already not an issue for the vast majority of people.

The nordic countries are leading the way for what canada is going to follow, the only real issue is the "who knows what we'll be paying tomorrow" tariffs make manufacturing vehicles in north america risky. That's it.

@jeffcliff @slashdot Incorrect. They lose about half the reach.

As for cost, electricity in europe is so expensive, there's no great difference, once you factor in the 1.5-2x cost of a car.

But sure... if you live in africa and drive all day long, there might be a case. But for europe, with european electricity prices and temperatures, gasoline powered cars are the cheapeast option.

I can buy a good used one for 5-10k EUR and it will last 20

@jeffcliff @slashdot years. Compare that with a 70k EUR electric, and I can travel enormous distances only due to the initial price difference.

@jeffcliff @slashdot https://carup.se/elbilar-tappar-over-40-i-kyla-man-maste-planera/

Read and weep environmental man!