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I don't wish death on others. God is in control of that.

The length of our life has been decided.
You alone know how long that is.
You have set the limits for us and nothing can change them.

Job 14:5

@elston_ @truthbait

After the motherfucking Flood, God left it up to us to fix our own problems.
@elston_ @truthbait

I always liked the idea of Calvinism and self-reliance in religion.

Anything else becomes cargo cult mysticism.

@amerika

Calvinism presents a rational coherence but it is purchased at a price: a smaller God, a narrower atonement, a Bible that must be systematically reinterpreted to fit a theological grid.

Paradoxes scripture leaves intact—election & invitation, particular grace & universal love, a Father who draws all men & a Father who passes over multitudes—are not held in reverent tension but dissolved into logical priorities. A theology afraid to let God be bigger than its own architecture.

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@elston_ @amerika As a physicalist, the only "religion" I can take seriously is the mystic, where the experience is interpreted through psychology, and personal, subjective, experience and meaning.

People who try to argue that god is out there in the world, or that their god is the right one are lunatics and belong in a mental hospital.

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@h4890 @amerika

You do you.

But have the decency to let us Christians do our thing.

@elston_ @amerika I do, as long as they do it within the constraints I specified. If they go past these constraints, I fight back.

Prime example... moslems. They want to reshape europe and make it into some kind of barbaric medieval society. This calls for fighting them. I do it by refusing as far as I can to hire them, to do business with them, and overall, to interact with them.

When I'm forced to, I always make a point of ridiculing religion, and not following their customs.

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@elston_ @amerika example are the revolting Jehovas Witnesses. There I use my philosophy studies and logic, to prove to them that there is no god, and that they are behaving like children.

Once I remember 3 young girls who were close to panic when I started to dismantle their faith. That was fun! 😇

@h4890 @elston_

Most people don't know that Hitler put the Jehovah's Witnesses in the camps along with the Jews and prostitutes.

Not saying I endorse his methods... fucking art student.

@amerika @elston_ Really? I can actually see how that would have happened. They knocked one time too many on Hitlers door on a sunday morning.

He probably did warn them several times at first! 😎

@elston_ @h4890

I think it's time to consider physical removal of liberals, organized religion types, and Pantera fans.

@amerika @elston_ This is the way! You are a wise man.

Was it the Mariana trench or Africa that has been prepared for them?

@h4890 @elston_

Africa is huge, and they could use a few million liberal slaves.

I think the continent is rising and will be a major force in world affairs very shortly.

@amerika @elston_ Yes, it does make sense. If they can get socialists as slave labour, they have all the things they need for cheap production and could then enter the world stage as a productive region!

@h4890 @elston_

Can't go that far, but metaphysical dualism is a rejection of nature and logic, thus must burn!
@elston_ @h4890

This is the problem with conjectural beliefs. When challenged, they provoke retaliation.

Also Jesus was Jewish.

@amerika @elston_ They should be challenged. It is fine to have imaginary friends when you are a child, and it is normal for some stage of early development. But when adults retrogress to this stage, it is close to mental illness and should be cured.

@elston_ @h4890

Ironically I am not "fatphobic." I like jolly fat people.

@amerika @elston_ You can pinch them, and then they squeal. This is a lot of fun! 😎

@h4890 @elston_

Also they know where the good food is

And the women who are, um, substantial, are often the sweetest

@amerika @elston_ This is the truth! The reason is that all they have is their personality, so they focus on developing it instead of beautiful people who focus on developing their exterior, but can remain very one dimensional inside.

@elston_ @h4890

Bring me prosperous plush women, not these concentration camp Ozempic waifs.

@elston_ @amerika On the contrary. You should listen to the wise man, because you can learn a lot.

Granted, we are not in100% perfect and spiritual agreement about everything, but there is deep thought behind the arguments. This is very rare on mastodon.

@h4890 @amerika

I'm a traditional Christian so we can only agree on some periphery items. I don't want to waste any of our limited time with bickering. I save that for @truthbait.

@elston_ @h4890 @truthbait

I am a Platonist; I believe in the gods.

Does the same rule apply?
@elston_ @h4890

Platonism steps past metaphysical dualism and uncreative materialism.

It says this world has a beauty that comes from afar, and its logic embraces all things.

It is not compatible with moral gods, but it is compatible with Darwin and tradition.

@amerika @elston_ Uncreative?! Materialism, or it's modern descendant, physicalism, is the most beautiful expression of human creativity there is. No need to make answer up, we find them out ourselves!

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