Batons and synthetic pepper spray were used to repel hundreds of masked, black-clad vigilantes in Portsmouth on Sunday, it has emerged, as the policing minister said officers had been injured as they repelled organised “aggression”.
@kibcol1049 Don't keep us in suspense! Was it pro- or anti-immigration?
@h4890 Against illegal immigration and in particular the small boat crossings it seems. Apart from the extreme dangers of these, to the people on the boats and the rescuers, it occurred to me that the total cost to the UK must be huge. In order to pay for it I suppose some deserving UK citizen doesn’t get some help they need. That's just my opinion though.
@kibcol1049 The only two solutions I can think of are...
1. Sink the boats. Once immigrants realize this, they will go to the EU instead of risking this.
2. Deduct the money it costs to patrol and handle immigrants from foreign aid, and if that is not enough, play hardball and add the cost to exports to the country or region the immigrant comes from.
A 3 can of course be to lower the cost of handling them. That is, water and bread, no hotels, immediate shipment to rwanda,
@h4890 @kibcol1049 interesting proposals. Could you elaborate on proposal 1?
@Disputatore @kibcol1049 Easy! Imagine that someone breaks into your home. In some countries you have the right to shoot them, or defend yourself.
This creates a psychological situation where people refrain from randomly breking into peoples homes, because they risk getting shot.
I say, let's do the same with the boats, after implementing a grace period. Boats that cannot identigy themselves and with a legal purpose, will be sunk.
Immigrants will be sent to rwanda. I bet this will
@Disputatore @kibcol1049 discourage a lot of people from trying to illegally enter the UK by boat.
@h4890 @kibcol1049 and where did you get the notion that gun ownership dissuades burglary? In the US, in 2024 alone there were 779,542 registered cases.
@Disputatore @kibcol1049 I was talking about breaking into someones home, and the US has 300 million people in it. If there was no right to defend your home I can promise you that there would be more burglaries.
In fact, it is easy to experiment with this. Leave the door to your home open, post on facebook spreading this information, and then go on vacation for a month.
Most likely you will discover things missing from your home.
@Disputatore @kibcol1049 This will also discourage smugglers of immigrants to continue with their business, since they risk losing their boats.
Overall, a win/win for everyone!