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@icedquinn @freepatriot @adiz It's a lot more complicated than that. From what I remember, Trotsky was an international socialist, while Stalin was for "socialism in one country", and that was the main conflict between them. There was also an ethnic element, where the old guard were very Jewish and a lot of Stalin's lackeys like Beria were Caucasian. Trotsky and co. were more of genuine ideologues as far as I can tell, and a lot of academics like to characterize them as idealists, but they pretty much wanted to reengineer humanity from the ground up to suit their needs, brutally destroying all the old institutions along the way. In a way, the Trotskyists are a lot like our modern neocons and woke liberals.
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@genmaicha Stalin was just neglectful too. 💅
I like that euphemism. I'm gonna' start incorporating that sarcastically into my vocabulary. @icedquinn @freepatriot
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Because the neighbors painted their house the wrong shade of tan and we just can't be having that!
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@freepatriot I don't know what Americans are embracing tyranny or what this post is in reference to. Realistically speaking, too ("tyranny" or otherwise), the USSR was the most prosperous, progressive, and equitable period in Russian/Eastern European history with the highest average standards of living and life expectancy, etc.. Nazi Germany was pretty short-lived. Cambodia was wildly short-lived and insanity.
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@adiz @freepatriot not sure stalin did them too many favors though.
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@adiz @icedquinn @freepatriot some of the tsars were pretty neglectful, but Stalin deliberately killed off tons of people on a scale never seen before
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@icedquinn Neither did any of their Czars. @freepatriot
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@genmaicha @freepatriot @adiz he had some pretty deeply set personal damage and took it out on everyone yeah.
i dunno much about trotsky but he kind of seems like the guy who had too much heart and got shoved out by the guy who just really liked killing people
i dunno much about trotsky but he kind of seems like the guy who had too much heart and got shoved out by the guy who just really liked killing people
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@icedquinn Trotsky was a total psycho piece of shit. So glad that guy got ice-picked. Stalin did fucked up stuff, no doubt. But, similar to Mao, Russia wouldn't have become what it became industrial-wise and developmentally had he not. Now, granted, there was a lot he didn't have to do and he could have been a lot less fucked up in order to get Russia there. @genmaicha @freepatriot
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You know that you live in the Twilight Zone when Americans look you in the eye and say that the US debt is only due to infrastructure investment and not because of welfare and war spending.
