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@h4890 @korsier @freepatriot
@cjd

The state... maybe. This is the courts most of all, and those tend to read their own power into laws.

CJD mentioned Wickard v Fillburn, a case that should scare the daylights out of anyone, but we can also look to Marbury v Madison.

The courts are like a bureaucracy in themselves, and lawyers focus on wealth transfer as the solution to all problems (since it is the only means available to them in civil court).

@korsier @h4890 @freepatriot @EvolLove

Hitler makes me feel unwell, sort of like Lincoln.

Many good people died for his ideological tantrum.

Of course, it was not his alone, and Communism was far stupider, including FDR, but we need and deserve something better than National Socialism (spit).

@monarchist @db @h4890 @freepatriot @cjd Socialised medicine should be a safety net for those few who cannot otherwise afford health care. For the majority, it should be about affordable choice of healthcare.

@monarchist @korsier @freepatriot public governance is the anti-thesis of freedom.

So it has parts of a markets, but what it lacks is so essential that I would not use the term market for fear of confusing things.

@monarchist @korsier @freepatriot @cjd Makes perfect sense! What is interesting is that on a few occasions I did have teachers who were successful in business, and in their later years wanted to do some good by teaching, and generally, they were very good teachers!

@monarchist @cjd @korsier @freepatriot True. But let's not forget that markets are the best pricing mechanism, in the long run. This fact is very often forgotten when the left is arguing for the abolition of markets. In the short term, markets can get things just as wrong as politicians or leftists.

@monarchist @korsier @Example @freepatriot What you describe is no doubt the case, but I still wouldn't "taint" the word market by using it in this instance. But what could one say? Pyramid scheme? Con? Hoax? I think maybe one of those better describes what is going on, than the word market. ;)

@monarchist @cjd @korsier @freepatriot

Well, in terms of the example, the clue is in the name. If it is public, it per definition, never has to care about the market, since it takes what it wants regardless of if it is based on free informed consent or not.

@h4890 @korsier @freepatriot

Sellers: politicians
Buyers: voters

"free, informed consent" = varies with ability of individual

Competition: different politicians

Freedom: your vote is private

@h4890 @korsier @freepatriot
@cjd

In my view, both the market for ideas and the market for votes follow market principles.

In this case, like in the case of decentralized education, the voters are choosing what they want but the voters experience no immediate direct consequences because the impact is socialized.

@h4890 @korsier @Example @freepatriot

We should mention the Peter Principle here.

Heavily-regulated corporations experience huge losses in labor turnover, so they tend to be cautious about hiring and firing.

As a result, they keep people around until they have seniority, then promote them.

The guy who is good at punching code is _not_ necessarily good at management.

@korsier @h4890 @freepatriot

There is nothing aristocratic about his system; it is a military dictatorship.

@korsier @h4890 @freepatriot @EvolLove

(The "(spit)" expression is from Dr Dmitri Vulis, who typed it after anything he detested. Kurwa, I think it is brilliant, especially when used with the cyka blyat Nazis and the sadly equally misguided Christian neo-Nazis.)

@korsier @h4890 @freepatriot @EvolLove

Aristocrats, similarly, looked at National Socialism as misguided... an extension of the Bismarck system which because it relied on the popular voice was prone to emotional excesses.

Hitler wanted to ban tobacco but got thwarted by the will of his people. Not saying that he was right to do so, but it shows the limits of his power.

The guy was a fucking _artist_ FFS.

Not a leader.

NSDAP had too much overhead from bureaucracy, therefore needed militarization, therefore was headed to war.

A stupid mistake even if Hitler was right about animal rights, aktion t4, environmental laws, and ethno-nationalism.

@h4890 @korsier @freepatriot

Free informed consent... free informed consent.

I think there is an egalitarian delusion here; people have vastly different intellectual abilities.

They are doing the best they can, but most people think _socially_ (what makes happy emotions for a group) versus realistically.

It's a market, but most want Coca-Cola not Early Grey (hot).

@h4890 @freepatriot

This is why it is dangerous: consensus is an illusion.

With a king, you know who you are following, and he only succeeds when he makes his society succeed in a historical (i.e. long-term or eternal) context.

@h4890 @freepatriot

Yes, I knew "The Boss" was involved in music, although maybe not country music (no one is going to mention that to American metal fans... cultural clash here).

My guess is that after Discharge -- which was and is huge in Sweden -- Bathory was not as weird as he thought.

Mix Motorhead, Discharge, and Judas Priest and you have the basics of extreme metal.

I suspect that the ease of producing music also worked against Quorthon.

The best releases are ruminated over for months or years. It is why most top bands only have a few good albums in them: they are revisiting their demo material that they have thought about, revised, and played extensively.

Slayer for example used to cut demos and then listen to them while driving around and drinking beers.

@h4890 @freepatriot

Tyranny of public opinion, more like.

If you want gossips and carnies to run your society...

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