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Spencer makes the argument that early Muslims were the rejected followers of the Christian heretic Arias.

The Arias cult had spread throughout North Africa and the Arabian peninsula by the 6th century.

The rapid conversion of Christians of those areas to Islam cannot easily be explained by the sword... Islam, once it reached non-Arian parts of the world, shed much more blood converting much smaller areas.

But for Arians, who denied the divinity of Christ, to convert to Islam, which denies the divinity of Christ, is much easier to swallow.

Published 2018 😏 means he's out and even more based after hanging with the odinists

Americans are completely retarded now.

You know that you live in the Twilight Zone when Americans look you in the eye and say tyranny is wonderful.

You know Americans have lost their minds when Americans say no Germans died during WWII.

@496d38f69865530028c7d212314d3ce6d605f3528a6c4020a067c9b5bc49fb13 @Tony @freepatriot @d7adc5284738090554213b0d906f8e1107fc0f3b114b188476e1eddbee85c921 @d9dba0e072bdb353dfb0020de159126af47e69e133ea91bbd48e8bede37320e2 @k

Interesting link given that movie was about a dude who went off the deep end with kabbalistic gematria, which is as Jewish bastardisation of theology from NeoPlatonism, Pythagoreanism and Hermetics contorted out of shape to backwards rationalise the BuyBull as a mystical text.
@freepatriot drops my drawers down and lets out a huge fart into the microphone*

Hows that is that better in there?Good.
@placebo @Tony @freepatriot @d9dba0e072bdb353dfb0020de159126af47e69e133ea91bbd48e8bede37320e2 Maybe in an indirect sense. You have to keep in mind that none of the religions are well organized in Arabia, there's no strict orthodoxy in any sect, so these traditions are all syncretizing and borrowing from each other.

The pagans in Medina also most likely had a role for Jesus. The Quran also references other mystical figures from the region that we don't know anything about now bc later Muslims destroyed most primitive Arabic literature.
Do you consider it possible that a lack of strong and consistent messaging about eastern religion has similarly corruped its messaging across cultures?

Americans are completely retarded now.

You that you live in the Twilight Zone when Americans look you in the eye and say tyranny is wonderful.

You know Americans have lost their minds when Americans say no Germans died during WWII.

In Did Muhammad Exist? bestselling author Robert Spencer brings to early Islam the same level of probing historical criticism scholars have long applied to Christianity and Judaism. Meticulously examining historical records, archaeological findings, and pioneering new scholarship, Spencer challenges the most fundamental assumptions about Islam’s origins―raising questions with profound implications for our world today.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1610171330/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

@WilhelmIII @Tony @freepatriot @d9dba0e072bdb353dfb0020de159126af47e69e133ea91bbd48e8bede37320e2 @placebo Muhammad existed and the standard used to deny his existence could be used to deny the historicity of 90% of people before the printing press existed.
@k @Tony @freepatriot @d9dba0e072bdb353dfb0020de159126af47e69e133ea91bbd48e8bede37320e2 Agreed. Muhammad's ideas on God and religion were certainly more formed from his exposure to and interaction with jews, but his exposure to heretical "Christians" who denied the divinity of Christ are likely what fueled his synthesizing of the two in the Quran. If Christ was just a prophet, then Mosiac/Hebraic law would endure.
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