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The fulfillment in Christ could indeed be the fulfillment of all the Old Testament promises. This view is often referred to as the "already-not yet" perspective, where the kingdom of God is already present in Christ, but its full manifestation is still to come.
In this view, the promises to Israel are not necessarily about a future literal earthly kingdom, but rather about the spiritual kingdom of God that has been established through Christ. The promises of land, restoration, and kingdom are seen as being fulfilled in a spiritual sense, with Christ as the ultimate fulfillment of God's promises.
This interpretation is supported by various biblical passages, such as:
Jesus' statement that the kingdom of God is "in your midst" (Luke 17:21) and that it is a spiritual kingdom that is not of this world (John 18:36).
The apostle Paul's statement that the true circumcision is a matter of the heart, not of the flesh (Romans 2:28-29), and that the true Israel is the spiritual Israel, not the physical one (Romans 9:6-8).
The book of Hebrews' argument that the Old Testament sacrifices and rituals were only shadows of the true reality, which is Christ (Hebrews 8:5, 10:1).
In this view, the fulfillment in Christ is not just a partial fulfillment, but rather the ultimate fulfillment of all God's promises. The Old Testament promises are seen as being fulfilled in a way that is more profound and universal than a literal earthly kingdom.
The fulfillment in Christ could indeed be the fulfillment of all the Old Testament promises. This view is often referred to as the "already-not yet" perspective, where the kingdom of God is already present in Christ, but its full manifestation is still to come.
In this view, the promises to Israel are not necessarily about a future literal earthly kingdom, but rather about the spiritual kingdom of God that has been established through Christ. The promises of land, restoration, and kingdom are seen as being fulfilled in a spiritual sense, with Christ as the ultimate fulfillment of God's promises.
This interpretation is supported by various biblical passages, such as:
Jesus' statement that the kingdom of God is "in your midst" (Luke 17:21) and that it is a spiritual kingdom that is not of this world (John 18:36).
The apostle Paul's statement that the true circumcision is a matter of the heart, not of the flesh (Romans 2:28-29), and that the true Israel is the spiritual Israel, not the physical one (Romans 9:6-8).
The book of Hebrews' argument that the Old Testament sacrifices and rituals were only shadows of the true reality, which is Christ (Hebrews 8:5, 10:1).
In this view, the fulfillment in Christ is not just a partial fulfillment, but rather the ultimate fulfillment of all God's promises. The Old Testament promises are seen as being fulfilled in a way that is more profound and universal than a literal earthly kingdom.
Everything is illegal, everyone is a criminal, everyone is under surveillance 24/7, and no one cares.
Living in a police state means that you must live in dread of being arrested. You can't help feeling hopeless.
Americans say that the US is the land of the free, but North Koreans also believe that North Korea is a free country.
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> Holy Fathers in our (True Orthodox) Communion; the first two as a matter of fact.
Constantine only converted to Xtianity in the first place because his murders were so heinous that the Pagan priesthood of his day refused to absolve him of his crimes. According to Zosimus they had told him that no amount of lustrations could cleanse him of his malice. So he turned to the Christians who gleefully agreed they could do it with little more than a hand wave. Zosimus went on to say that once he had the whole empire in his grasp he no longer felt the need to conceal his evil disposition and vicious inclinations, but acted as he pleased, without control. That's the guy who decided on the contents of your holy book, and that of every other Xtian on earth (notwithstanding any remaining Gnostics). As to Cyril, he was openly an anti-Semite and viciously anti-Pagan, to the point that even his fellow Xtians were disgusted by his violent bigotry, especially after he instigated the murder of Hypatia under the pretext that her use of an astrolabe constituted "divination" and "witchcraft". In reality it was just a pretext because her popularity threatened his religious hegemony, and bolstered the arguments of his rival politicians, who were largely also Xtians. You can backwards rationalise this all you like, but your "Holy Fathers" were murderous psychopaths, and the rest of the history of your "Traditional Christianity" very much exemplifies it. Not to mention the fact that it wouldn't have a theology whatsoever were it not for wholesale plagiarism of Pagan philosophy, as is also true of Judajism and Islame.
> Traditional Christianity completed the Ancient Faith of All Man.
As always anyone with more than half a brain cell continues to vehemently disagree, myself included. Were the worth of your belief system so self-evident then you wouldn't have had to force it on people, and might have understood from day one that inciting violent bigotry and hatred towards others of a different opinion is by no means a spiritual act. You can't even get the Golden Rule right ffs. Do NOT do to others what THEY do not want you to (ie. Take "No." for an answer.). Foisting your preferences on the unwilling is the hallmark of your faith, because you people are too insecure and compensatory narcissists to grasp the abject stupidity of your arguments, much less why others would conscientiously reject them. It's not a completion of ancient faith. It's a retard superstition masquerading as a religion, just as we were told by the likes of Celsus, Seutonius, Tacitus, Porphyry and so from day one. Hell even Thomas Jefferson referred to Xtianity as a violent superstition. His Pièce de Résistance was instituting separation of church and state in the USA to protect people from it (which he had proudly proclaimed on his tombstone).
The fact is that farcical superstition has so reliably produced genocide on a global scale for the past 2,000 years that anyone with half a wit must understand it to be a feature, not a bug, of that belief system. You can bury your head in the sand and deflect with "No True Scotsman" fallacies all you like, but the fact remains blatantly obvious to anyone with half a brain cell left in their head.
> Holy Fathers in our (True Orthodox) Communion; the first two as a matter of fact.
Constantine only converted to Xtianity in the first place because his murders were so heinous that the Pagan priesthood of his day refused to absolve him of his crimes. According to Zosimus they had told him that no amount of lustrations could cleanse him of his malice. So he turned to the Christians who gleefully agreed they could do it with little more than a hand wave. Zosimus went on to say that once he had the whole empire in his grasp he no longer felt the need to conceal his evil disposition and vicious inclinations, but acted as he pleased, without control. That's the guy who decided on the contents of your holy book, and that of every other Xtian on earth (notwithstanding any remaining Gnostics). As to Cyril, he was openly an anti-Semite and viciously anti-Pagan, to the point that even his fellow Xtians were disgusted by his violent bigotry, especially after he instigated the murder of Hypatia under the pretext that her use of an astrolabe constituted "divination" and "witchcraft". In reality it was just a pretext because her popularity threatened his religious hegemony, and bolstered the arguments of his rival politicians, who were largely also Xtians. You can backwards rationalise this all you like, but your "Holy Fathers" were murderous psychopaths, and the rest of the history of your "Traditional Christianity" very much exemplifies it. Not to mention the fact that it wouldn't have a theology whatsoever were it not for wholesale plagiarism of Pagan philosophy, as is also true of Judajism and Islame.
> Traditional Christianity completed the Ancient Faith of All Man.
As always anyone with more than half a brain cell continues to vehemently disagree, myself included. Were the worth of your belief system so self-evident then you wouldn't have had to force it on people, and might have understood from day one that inciting violent bigotry and hatred towards others of a different opinion is by no means a spiritual act. You can't even get the Golden Rule right ffs. Do NOT do to others what THEY do not want you to (ie. Take "No." for an answer.). Foisting your preferences on the unwilling is the hallmark of your faith, because you people are too insecure and compensatory narcissists to grasp the abject stupidity of your arguments, much less why others would conscientiously reject them. It's not a completion of ancient faith. It's a retard superstition masquerading as a religion, just as we were told by the likes of Celsus, Seutonius, Tacitus, Porphyry and so from day one. Hell even Thomas Jefferson referred to Xtianity as a violent superstition. His Pièce de Résistance was instituting separation of church and state in the USA to protect people from it (which he had proudly proclaimed on his tombstone).
The fact is that farcical superstition has so reliably produced genocide on a global scale for the past 2,000 years that anyone with half a wit must understand it to be a feature, not a bug, of that belief system. You can bury your head in the sand and deflect with "No True Scotsman" fallacies all you like, but the fact remains blatantly obvious to anyone with half a brain cell left in their head.
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Wait, so Teutonics are better than Brittonics now?
I'd rather be a spic than retarded 🤣
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Wow.
Americans think North America was uninhabited in 1491.
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Americans hate low prices with a passion.
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@toiletpaper @Tony @freepatriot @d9dba0e072bdb353dfb0020de159126af47e69e133ea91bbd48e8bede37320e2 @WilhelmIII @placebo @k I’d like to be able to take your position seriously, but it’s just Da Vinci Code level hyperbole and silliness.
> ... [St. Constantine]’s the guy who decided on the contents of your holy book, and that of every other Xtian on earth (notwithstanding any remaining Gnostics).
A position like this can only emerge in the total shadow of Traditional Christian history. Maybe it works against rootless Evangelicals and lapsed Catholics ? Who knows.
> … Were the worth of your belief system so self-evident then you wouldn't have had to force it on people
Faith itself is a gift from The Father - Who offers this gift as He will - in accordance with inscrutable and mysterious factors largely beyond human capacity for comprehension. It ultimately isn’t my business to know or understand specifically why anonymous online randos do or do not believe. In my case, Traditional Christianity was pretty obviously True - once I actually understood what it’s actually teaching. But it took decades before I could appreciate it sufficiently to actually even bother. Now whether that’s the case for anyone else is beyond my pay grade.
The idea that Traditional Orthodoxy can be *forced* on people is kind of silly, from my perspective. It completely dispenses with the notion that people can believe in accordance with their free will. That’s just absurd from where I am standing.
> ... [St. Constantine]’s the guy who decided on the contents of your holy book, and that of every other Xtian on earth (notwithstanding any remaining Gnostics).
A position like this can only emerge in the total shadow of Traditional Christian history. Maybe it works against rootless Evangelicals and lapsed Catholics ? Who knows.
> … Were the worth of your belief system so self-evident then you wouldn't have had to force it on people
Faith itself is a gift from The Father - Who offers this gift as He will - in accordance with inscrutable and mysterious factors largely beyond human capacity for comprehension. It ultimately isn’t my business to know or understand specifically why anonymous online randos do or do not believe. In my case, Traditional Christianity was pretty obviously True - once I actually understood what it’s actually teaching. But it took decades before I could appreciate it sufficiently to actually even bother. Now whether that’s the case for anyone else is beyond my pay grade.
The idea that Traditional Orthodoxy can be *forced* on people is kind of silly, from my perspective. It completely dispenses with the notion that people can believe in accordance with their free will. That’s just absurd from where I am standing.
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@KingOfWhiteAmerica @Tony @freepatriot @d9dba0e072bdb353dfb0020de159126af47e69e133ea91bbd48e8bede37320e2 @WilhelmIII @placebo @k
> ...Da Vinci Code level hyperbole and silliness.
lol. I'm just not fooled into thinking that a steaming pile of shit with some icing sugar sprinkled on top constitutes delicious chocolate cake. But clearly no amount of pointing it out will dissuade you from your delusion to the contrary.
> Faith itself is a gift from The Father...
Faith (unlike belief) implies doubt. Belief on the other hand is just an opinion, in the case of your superstition, standing oblivious to all evidence to the contrary. As to what kind of genitals your Jewish sky wizard has, that's a metaphor for mind (male) vs body (female) stemming from Pagan religions. The idea being that the mind impregnates the body with life just as the man impregnates the woman who endows his energetic seed with a material form. Specifically it comes from NeoPlatonism, where the Father (nous), the Son (physis), and the Holy Spirit (psyche) are directly metaphors for the unification of mind with body, aka: Heaven on/in Earth. It's also called Hieros Gamos (the sacred wedding) of God and Goddess. Back in the day when Semite Gods still had wives, such as Shekinah/Asherah/Sabbath-Hamalka, or Al-Lat, etc, this was also understood. But your traditional retardation replaced that metaphor with a bunch of superstitious prevarication to fool the gullible into thinking some holy Jewish wizard in the sky has a penis.
Anyway, I clearly can't prevent you from endorsing this genocidal superstition when you're already brainwashed, but I can easily debunk it sufficiently that anyone else with half a brain cell can look into the things I've said and find out for themselves.
> ...Da Vinci Code level hyperbole and silliness.
lol. I'm just not fooled into thinking that a steaming pile of shit with some icing sugar sprinkled on top constitutes delicious chocolate cake. But clearly no amount of pointing it out will dissuade you from your delusion to the contrary.
> Faith itself is a gift from The Father...
Faith (unlike belief) implies doubt. Belief on the other hand is just an opinion, in the case of your superstition, standing oblivious to all evidence to the contrary. As to what kind of genitals your Jewish sky wizard has, that's a metaphor for mind (male) vs body (female) stemming from Pagan religions. The idea being that the mind impregnates the body with life just as the man impregnates the woman who endows his energetic seed with a material form. Specifically it comes from NeoPlatonism, where the Father (nous), the Son (physis), and the Holy Spirit (psyche) are directly metaphors for the unification of mind with body, aka: Heaven on/in Earth. It's also called Hieros Gamos (the sacred wedding) of God and Goddess. Back in the day when Semite Gods still had wives, such as Shekinah/Asherah/Sabbath-Hamalka, or Al-Lat, etc, this was also understood. But your traditional retardation replaced that metaphor with a bunch of superstitious prevarication to fool the gullible into thinking some holy Jewish wizard in the sky has a penis.
Anyway, I clearly can't prevent you from endorsing this genocidal superstition when you're already brainwashed, but I can easily debunk it sufficiently that anyone else with half a brain cell can look into the things I've said and find out for themselves.
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@RedTechEngineer @freepatriot I mean kind of
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@BowsacNoodle @Tony @freepatriot @d9dba0e072bdb353dfb0020de159126af47e69e133ea91bbd48e8bede37320e2 @WilhelmIII @KingOfWhiteAmerica @placebo @k
> If Christians aren't perfect, God didn't real!
God is an Anglo-Saxon term for a Pagan concept of deity which long predates the retard Jewish bastard child you speak of.
> If Christians aren't perfect, God didn't real!
God is an Anglo-Saxon term for a Pagan concept of deity which long predates the retard Jewish bastard child you speak of.
