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Americans say freedom doesn't benefit them while thinking that they are exempt from the police state.

Tyranny doesn't lead to safety because tyranny leads to corruption and bribery.

You wouldn't need to have fake travel passes in a free country because there would be no travel permits.

Tyranny leads to disguises, fake vaccination documents, negative flu tests, diplomas, birth certificates, driver licenses, and passports.

@icedquinn @freepatriot @genmaicha @adiz I MEAN WE STILL GOT A VERSION OF IT BY MEANS OF AMAZON WAREHOUSES, ETF'S, AND JUST IN TIME MANUFACTURING

@icedquinn
> but the USSR managed to incompetently dodge it.

Common Russian L. Not to sound like an asshole or whatever but...almost everything "negative" ascribed to the USSR could just be ascribed to being Russian or otherwise Eastern European or Slavic. It's like the stereotypical Slavic experience of having vast resources and genius brilliance but also unfixable corruption and commonplace back-stabbing and chronic dysfunction. It's almost like a societal or sociocultural curse to have the means and methods and ability of scooping up fleks of gold from the ground only to watch them trickle through your fingers back down to the Earth, never to be kept. Or like a feast that turns to ash as soon as it enters your mouth. Whatever metaphor or analogy you want. It's kinda sad, really. That's the story of the USSR, but also of just Russia and that whole part of the world, generally. @genmaicha @freepatriot

@adiz

How do you know the real sane leaders from the insane? They're usually the ones that get killed by the others. Trotsky was the head of the World Communist Party you Nazi.

@genmaicha @icedquinn @freepatriot

@adiz

No, he wasn't. He was the most sane of the leaders. What was left after he was assassinated by Stalin and and Lenin was the Psychos. You never did your research.

Trotsky wanted the real socialist/communist dream. The others did not.

@genmaicha @icedquinn @freepatriot

@adiz @freepatriot @genmaicha for what little its worth, the USSR had cybernetics before everyone else. they were refused because they wanted to tap the military's network trunks and the military wanted to bogart computing to maintain a power token over the politburo. so they manage to retard themselves out of beating even cybersyn to a national internet system :cat_sad:

apparently the CIA was extremely concerned about the ramifications of automated planning at scale, but the USSR managed to incompetently dodge it.

Chile got one, Cybersyn, nonfactors a CIA funded union op, and then like two months later Allende is killed in the Pinochet thing and the command center for cybersyn is burned down.

:cirno_doubt:

@icedquinn Therapy and cybernetics books probably have more real-world utility in your life than books about Russia, to be fair. @genmaicha @freepatriot

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