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I disagree here. I'd argue that libertarians do not _deny_ the goal/meaning. They argue, that this is up to you to come up with or adopt, since forcing it on you would be an aggressive act. I believe that ultimately, the only meaning/goals you'll ever have are ones you decide on yourself. Now that could mean that others decide on the same goal, but that's up to each and everyone.

Now when it comes to stability, I agree with you! Libertarianism is beautiful and the

@monarchist @freepatriot only ethical way to run society we have. The problem though, is its inherent instability. "Herding cats" is a good illustration, and another one is to look to history and point at the nr of successful libertarian communities (long term) that exist, and basically you have none. I think probably the longest lasting might be the viking settlement of iceland which laster a hundred year, or a few hundred at most, before transforming into something less libertarian.

@monarchist @freepatriot The billion dollar question is, how can one "fuse" the liberty of choosing ones goals and values, with the stability of pushing a cultural package from above (for instance, nationalism)? If that is solved, we've have come a long way towards ethical public management.

The only way to run libertarian communities today that I see are as small microstates like Monaco and Liechtenstein, supported by blackmail and threats of biological or nuclear warfare and sleeper agents.

I grew up in the rugged mountains of West Virginia. Hunting, fishing and camping. Loved camping in the cold snow and hunting deer. No tent, just a good bag or bed roll, a fire and canvas tarp. Good times. I think the good Lord he let me grow up in those mountains.

Americans say AI could never launch nuclear weapons in the future because AI has never launched nuclear weapons in the past.

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@freepatriot This is why we need to keep electing governments that believe in democracy and freedom of speech. Socialism is death.

@freepatriot Precisely. Trade with friendly nations should be free. Trade with unfriendly nations should either be illegal or priced so high it may as well be illegal. It's about punishing evil, not making money to fund wars.

@freepatriot Rational self-interest suggests that voters should want their money to retain its value, but people don't always vote that way.

@irie @freepatriot There is nothing in Libertarianism to suggest that we don't have leaders, but we want leaders who are actually competent. The left wants leaders who espouse their ideological fantasies about equity and 80 genders and the supposedly peaceful Palestinians and all the other guff.

@freepatriot Somewhere between anarchy and a police state is leadership by competent libertarians.

@freepatriot Well, AI should never be allowed to be in a position to launch nukes.