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@korsier @h4890 @freepatriot

There is nothing aristocratic about his system; it is a military dictatorship.

@korsier @h4890 @freepatriot @EvolLove

(The "(spit)" expression is from Dr Dmitri Vulis, who typed it after anything he detested. Kurwa, I think it is brilliant, especially when used with the cyka blyat Nazis and the sadly equally misguided Christian neo-Nazis.)

@korsier @h4890 @freepatriot @EvolLove

Aristocrats, similarly, looked at National Socialism as misguided... an extension of the Bismarck system which because it relied on the popular voice was prone to emotional excesses.

Hitler wanted to ban tobacco but got thwarted by the will of his people. Not saying that he was right to do so, but it shows the limits of his power.

The guy was a fucking _artist_ FFS.

Not a leader.

NSDAP had too much overhead from bureaucracy, therefore needed militarization, therefore was headed to war.

A stupid mistake even if Hitler was right about animal rights, aktion t4, environmental laws, and ethno-nationalism.

@h4890 @korsier @freepatriot

Free informed consent... free informed consent.

I think there is an egalitarian delusion here; people have vastly different intellectual abilities.

They are doing the best they can, but most people think _socially_ (what makes happy emotions for a group) versus realistically.

It's a market, but most want Coca-Cola not Early Grey (hot).

@h4890 @freepatriot

This is why it is dangerous: consensus is an illusion.

With a king, you know who you are following, and he only succeeds when he makes his society succeed in a historical (i.e. long-term or eternal) context.

@h4890 @freepatriot

Yes, I knew "The Boss" was involved in music, although maybe not country music (no one is going to mention that to American metal fans... cultural clash here).

My guess is that after Discharge -- which was and is huge in Sweden -- Bathory was not as weird as he thought.

Mix Motorhead, Discharge, and Judas Priest and you have the basics of extreme metal.

I suspect that the ease of producing music also worked against Quorthon.

The best releases are ruminated over for months or years. It is why most top bands only have a few good albums in them: they are revisiting their demo material that they have thought about, revised, and played extensively.

Slayer for example used to cut demos and then listen to them while driving around and drinking beers.

@h4890 @freepatriot

Tyranny of public opinion, more like.

If you want gossips and carnies to run your society...

@h4890 @freepatriot

Weirdly like Ayn Rand and later Heinlein.

@korsier @h4890 @freepatriot @EvolLove

You guys opened a can of worms.

Nazi ideology, as an emotional/political product, is highly successful. People keep talking about it pro- and con-.

National Socialism as a system... well it has the same problems as Communism, namely a huge state bureaucracy, need to militarize, and therefore need to demonize.

I would not have been a Hitler supporter in 1930s Germany, even if I were a raging anti-Semite, because I do not trust the easy answers people.

Additionally, because I am me, I would have opposed the cruelty. Remigration of Jews from Germany is still a good idea; slave labor and encouraging violence against them is stupid, cruel, and off the path toward achieving the necessary goals.

The NSDAP opposed the aristocracy as you recall.

@h4890 @korsier @freepatriot

The state of nature is libertarian.

Over time, however, it becomes clear that if a civilization does not act as one, it gets clobbered.

So you get war leaders.

These beat back the enemies, and then become peacetime aristocrats.

The monarchy is represented by the sword not because it conquered its own people, but because it prevented others from doing that.

War is our destiny.

@h4890 @korsier @freepatriot

No, because markets produce those who are good at working with markets.

Part of the point of aristocracy is that they sequester wealth to avoid dominance by markets, like they sequester power to avoid herd rule.

What you will have in a libertarian society over time is one that opts for monarchy to reduce the cost and unreliability of government.

After all... historically... that's how it came about in the first place.

@korsier @h4890 @freepatriot @cjd

"Wokeness" came out of the Black Studies programs which were designed to give minority students a major in which they could succeed.

When this was mainstreamed and expanded to other groups, it resulted in a massive dumbing-down of the curriculum.

@h4890 @cjd @korsier @freepatriot

Agreed. Most higher intelligence people are ready by age 15 to start applying their knowledge.

Those below that do not benefit from more years of education anyway.

@h4890 @freepatriot

Definitely. I mean publicly-traded stocks. Private ownerships are partnerships or share-based as you note.

Being a sole owner means no committee, and committees are the basic building block of bureaucracy.

@korsier @h4890 @freepatriot

Those are not aristocrats.

Aristocrats are chosen for their behavior, not their ability to manipulate the system.

The people you identify do not start out with power, but generate it, and therefore are good at manipulating it but not at leadership.

@h4890 @korsier @freepatriot

Those are not aristocrats.

@h4890 @freepatriot

"In reality, you could probably remove 99% of the government tomorrow, and people would do exactly what they did today. "

This is the big point and very true.

However, the government/voters have created a vast dependent population.

This is why the aristocrats kept it simple: first and foremost, reward the good.

Secondarily, remove the egregious, but also importantly, leave everyone else alone.

Aristocracy tolerates more local variation and eccentricity than democracy ever will, even CHAZ/CHOP.