@amerika I like what you're saying in this post, but I feel like the word "individualist" carries two almost opposite definitions. In my view you can be an individualist in that you as an individual are the most important unit in the world and therefore the world has a duty to cater to you as an individual (what you seem to be describing here), or individualism as in considering yourself to be the one who is ultimately responsible for your own actions, behavior and outcomes and the world doesn't owe you or anyone else shit. The latter is an antidote to the former, and it's important to recognize the former as a vice even if the latter can be a virtue. You could almost call the former egoism (which you sort of do in the article

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@sj_zero @amerika I use the words individualist to mean the healthy individual who bases his life on taking responsibility for himself. The other one I call an egoist, which is an unhealthy and destructive state of mind, and which, if too severe, can be seen as a mental illness.

Don't let the left capture the word individual just like they did with the word liberal. Liberal originally meant the ideology of freedom. This was perverted by the left to spread socialism. It is really very sad.

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@h4890 @sj_zero

The Left is right on that definition.

Taking responsibility for yourself should simply be called taking responsibility:

https://www.amerika.org/politics/responsible/

"Liberalism" means liberating people from something. That implies that reality and/or society is bad because it... limits the individual.

Note: libertarianism is a variety of liberalism because both are based on egalitarianism.

@amerika @sj_zero

Liberalism, political doctrine that takes protecting and enhancing the freedom of the individual to be the central problem of politics.

britannica.com/topic/liberalis

It does not need to imply freeing people from something.

Egalitarianism is the opposite of classical liberalism or libertarianism, since it ascribes no values to the individual.

But we know our definitions differ, which is why we arrive at different conclusions from the same words.

@h4890 @sj_zero

However I agree that individualism is "an unhealthy and destructive state of mind, and which, if too severe, can be seen as a mental illness" and suggest that in groups it induces mental illness.

@amerika @sj_zero I disagree. For me, this is egoism. But this is an old debate, so I won't repeat the arguments from the wonderful and very interesting mailinglist.

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