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@RealRaul why would Himmel have done this? One of many problems I found with Frieren is that is flirts with the metaphysical yet sells an atheist worldivew. If there is no God, then everything is allowed. If everything is allowed, why would you defend the weak, why would you do 'the right thing,' when the right thing is relative?

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@orcbolg2045 @RealRaul that's interesting but the mention of the goddess of creation does not hinder Frieren's message from being a pragmatic secularism, where the goddess is treated as a likely real historical figure, but not a divinity. Everything in Frieren points to a naturalist (scientific) ontology, just like the average normie sees the world today.

- God: a historical figure/ancestor
- Miracles: advanced coding/magic
- Afterlife. a geographic location.
- Demons: biological predators

@irie @RealRaul >Be Japanese media
>Demons exist
>Angels/God doesn't
:huhcat:
@Will2Power @irie @RealRaul they do this a lot
im more annoyed that every shonen now is the same plot “demons exist and torment society but we at this secret demon-fighting group utilize demonic powers to fight back against them” ugh. often the show is still good but the first few episodes are a slog because it always starts out the same
Ever notice how Pokemon has dark type but not light type?
@irie @RealRaul This is just a western perspective. There have been many systems of morality before Christianity.

@Griffith @RealRaul if you read my initial post carefully I did not mention Christianity. Frieren ultimately sells an atheist (materialist) ontology. Demons in Frieren are a literal physical species.

@irie @RealRaul I see. I see. My misunderstanding.
Although that wouldn’t deny it metaphysics.

@Griffith @RealRaul No, it would deny metaphysics if the so-called 'Demons' are just another race, a race that is shown as ontologically evil, which is not really a thing in our reality.

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