@TenaciousGoat disorganized and unprepared loss of ego is madness. Most drug induced loss of ego is temporary and delusional and negative even when the drugs aren't government poisons.

@andetritus Temporary yes, but doesn’t make it not true.

@TenaciousGoat "True" doesn't make it a functional part peoples' lives, though. Normies need their egos to protect them from failing to work and failing to reproduce and failing to be able to make themselves happy. That's why even Leary wanted LSD to be behind a doctor's prescription.

@andetritus Sounds hard

@TenaciousGoat One of my friends was already sort of soft headed and credulous and no one can talk to him now. He thought he could smoke DMT and shroom and everything else into becoming a bodhisattva but he's just a weirdo faggot who's barely employable.

@andetritus @TenaciousGoat If people want the lsd experience all the time they can just become schizophrenics

@7073M Schizophrenia aside, there is many more cases of cannabis psychosis too, which is the freakouts where people think they're going to stop breathing, panic attacks that cannot be dealt with, an overabundance of the anxiety with non of the Cheech and Chong euphoria of eld. I'm sure there are many cases like Syd Barrett where the drugs just sped up the diagnosis but I doubt all these people were headed there already if they smoked throughout their critical developmental teenage years.

@nomebullyyou i don't think anyone should smoke until they're older, i didn't start until i was almost 18

lsd was the first drug i was interested in

@7073M I highly recommend illegally grown weed from a grower who distrusts legal weed, (no pun intended, I promise).

@nomebullyyou i'm always on the lookout

as far as the cannabis induced psychosis... some people just aren't built for anything even mildly psychedelic, but it's better they find out with something like weed vs shrooms, right?

@7073M Hard for me to say, but generally that sounds right. I wish everyone could start with 1995 dimebag grass. The mid grade cheap shit was so much better in a lot of ways. Starting off with 2025 super potent weed or cooking the dabs in some ghetto apartment with kooks might be (a whole lot) worse than a great shroom experience in the woods with great warm friends and a big open starry sky.

@7073M @nomebullyyou TBH I have never even tried any illegal drugs -- I've always been sort of high on life so never had the inclination. So I can't claim to have any experience or preferences.

That said, it is impossible to answer questions like: if Joe had not died from being hit by a car today, is it possible he would have died from being hit by a meteor tomorrow? I don't know. Nobody can.

But I know this increase in marijuana-induced psychosis is a real thing. If, as you ask, it is just accelerating something that would have happened anyway, we should note a precipitous drop in new hospitalizations from psychosis after marijuana has been legal for a couple of years. But this is sadly not the case.

That said, the causality seems to be complex. That is, it seems that some people have particular genetics that don't mix well with cannabis. The trouble is there's no way to know if one has those genetics until they test the theory. Marijuana seems to be no worse than other recreational drugs (including alcohol) in terms of rates of psychosis.

That said, it generally seems unwise to me for people to heap something like that on themselves when it is entirely optional.