@nomebullyyouI'm glad to see the "these people don't believe these words they are saying" is getting more traction. It doesn't matter ultimately if you see it as a spell or a manipulation because they end up being the same.
@nomebullyyouI think the "spell" concept helps a lot of people get around the "why would people lie to me" because it packages it as a "they aren't lying, they are just reciting a spell"