@TenaciousGoat Nigga, just get away from people who don't "get" it and start watching a shit-ton of YouRube videos and learn how to bake bread from yeast (you'll fail the first 3 or 4 times in ways the first few videos did not address). Learn how to make good soil, how to make clay bricks, how to build log cabins.

Will we ever do it? Unlikely. But you see how people can be self-sufficient and it rubs off on you, and your confidence in yourself comes from your competence. And get a good pet.