@mangeurdenuage Well the housing bubble is due to pop pretty soon, so get pre-approved for a loan, wait for the crash, and pounce.

@Tfmonkey
>so get pre-approved for a loan, wait for the crash, and pounce.
I'm under the poverty line which is 1080 euros something in france, I have between 400~480 per month and that's all. Can't do anything.

@mangeurdenuage well then I guess you're your family's bitch then.

@Tfmonkey Thanks I have been for over a decade, it killed my brother too.

@mangeurdenuage @Tfmonkey try to find another job or a better one, like apply to hundreds of jobs a day and lie a bit on your CV to exaggerate things.

@antichrist_hater @mangeurdenuage

change your gender to female, and you'll get multiple interviews in the same week.

@Tfmonkey @mangeurdenuage yea but they involve choking on cock

@antichrist_hater @Tfmonkey
>try to find another job
I'm not employed I'm a freelance.

>and lie
:disgusting:

@mangeurdenuage @Tfmonkey the ppl who will give or refuse jobs are subhuman for the most part, lying to a subhuman is ok morally

@mangeurdenuage @Tfmonkey @antichrist_hater

Mind sharing what kind of freelancing you do?

@jcbrand @Tfmonkey @antichrist_hater Computer repair, administration, and maintenance.

@mangeurdenuage @Tfmonkey @antichrist_hater

Have you tried programming? It's fun, pays well and can be done as a freelancer

@jcbrand @Tfmonkey @antichrist_hater
>Have you tried programming?
I have, still learning the basics.
Question:
How much do you progress when you're interrupted five times a week average of six hours per day for a decade ?

@mangeurdenuage @jcbrand @Tfmonkey you dont, thats why you first leave then you progress, I left 2 years ago, at that time I had no money for food even, ate white rice for weeks, now Im making almost twice as much as both my parents combined, without any kind of title from the government.

YOU NEED TO LEAVE

@antichrist_hater @Tfmonkey @mangeurdenuage

I don't know your personal situation, so can't comment really.

Perhaps you need to leave, perhaps you just need to set boundaries and learn to say no.

@jcbrand @Tfmonkey @mangeurdenuage he cant set boundaries, his survival depends on them, they will take pleasure in trespassing those boundaries just to humiliate him most likely, their goal is to suck out every emotional resource out of him so that he can never leave. Correct me if I'm wrong.

@antichrist_hater @jcbrand @Tfmonkey
>their goal is to suck out every emotional resource out of him so that he can never leave. Correct me if I'm wrong.
That isn't the case green text related I have parents who are self absorbed by work and problems, they also do not recognize easily their mistakes (especially my father).

@mangeurdenuage @jcbrand @antichrist_hater At the end of the day, if you're financially dependent on your parents, then you have to do what they say, especially if you're a legal adult and they can kick you out at any time if they so choose.

The strong do what they can, and the weak suffer what they must.

@Tfmonkey @mangeurdenuage @jcbrand It's not really like that, there is laws that you have to take care of your descendants if they can't take care of themselves, and abuse is never allowed under no circumstance.

@Tfmonkey @jcbrand @antichrist_hater
> then you have to do what they say,
Even if it cost you your life work/carrier and you'll have nothing when they die ? Because this is the case.
Even if you cost only 100 bucks per two months ? Because this is what I cost, mainly electricity, I drink rain water filtered via ceramic candles, I only clean myself via the sink and get back the water in bucket for the toilets, I shower only once per month. As for food I buy everything.

@mangeurdenuage @jcbrand @antichrist_hater if you're so thrifty and hard working, why do you live with your parents in the first place?

Get a van and convert it into a camper and live in that as you save up for something else, or be a nomad or something.

If you're bringing in no income, then you need to put your "life work/career" on hold. Your dreams aren't paying the bills, so maybe do those on the side while you actually earn some money.

You've been fed too much self esteem bullshit.

@Tfmonkey @mangeurdenuage @jcbrand you are extremely stupid and unaware of how reality works, and how little opportunity to get money there is in Europe, choke on a cock and die.

@Tfmonkey @jcbrand @antichrist_hater
> why do you live with your parents in the first place?
Because my previous job in the middle of paris was paid minimum wage as a boutique manager and I saved my boss son from overdosing in the toilet which I was worried after a few days so I sent a mail to my boss and apparently his wife was reading his email and was not supposed to be aware of this so she started harassing me everyday calling me a liar, so I quit.

>If you're bringing in no income, then you need to put your "life work/career" on hold.
I have little income but I have a 15k debt for helping my parents restaurant which in the end closed due to the gov pandemics restrictions.

>You've been fed too much self esteem

@mangeurdenuage @jcbrand @antichrist_hater You should have never gone into debt and given the money to someone else. If you don't have the money to help, then you don't have the money to help. You don't go into debt because someone else needs the money.

If your parents are giving you hell after you gave them $15K then your parents are assholes.

Your talk of "life work" sounded like you were some NEET living at home with your parents chasing your "dreams" and complaining about it to me earlier.

@antichrist_hater @Tfmonkey @jcbrand
>LEAVE

@mangeurdenuage @Tfmonkey @jcbrand I joined the navy to leave, only you know your situation.

@antichrist_hater @Tfmonkey @mangeurdenuage

I don't know. I'm quite pro family but also know some family members can be toxic and that leaving and making a success can prove to them that you can take care of yourself and don't need to put up with their shit.

But I believe there are also other ways, like standing up for yourself and learning to say no.

@antichrist_hater @Tfmonkey @mangeurdenuage

My own situation... I left long ago, and now miss my family

@jcbrand @Tfmonkey @mangeurdenuage each one has a different situation I guess, but he posts everyday about how they disrespect him, it seems to me he has interiorized the abuse and makes excuses for them, of course I don't truly know the situation.

And about that green text, is that you?

Also people have hidden intentions, you can see their true self by observing patterns in their actions, of course bad people are always going to make excuses as to why it is right that they abuse others.

@antichrist_hater @jcbrand @Tfmonkey
@antichrist_hater @jcbrand @Tfmonkey
>it seems to me he has interiorized the abuse and makes excuses for them
I need to be fair, I have worked with them enough to know how shit the situation is. But that doesn't excuse how shit my father is when it comes to his attitude at work nor his exaggerated demands.

>And about that green text, is that you?
Fortunately no, but in an almost similar way my brother took his life after being drugged and abused by people for months and after the hospital found him he came back home for my father to bring him to work and due to my father being himself and my brother needing a fix he couldn't have he took his life, I was able to reanimate him in the morning fortunately.

@mangeurdenuage @Tfmonkey @jcbrand damn sorry to hear that

@jcbrand @Tfmonkey @mangeurdenuage I do not miss my family at all, I do feel lonely sometimes, but I always was, since I left them my life has improved exponentially in every way.

It is better to be alone than in bad company.
Abuse is not love.

@mangeurdenuage @jcbrand @Tfmonkey @antichrist_hater Iktf. I used to live with my mother, obviously, and despite her sudden mood swings it was pretty chill. She did her stuff and had her hobbies and I did my stuff and had my hobbies.

I moved in with my in-laws, totally different. They don't do jack shit and thus always in the house so you couldn't do any at home hobbies. They were partially dependent on my s/o and thus me so we were constantly interrupted. They have 0 idea what personal space was and would routinely wake us up all hours of the night for retarded shit. I am treated more like a child now that I'm an adult than when I was a kid with my mother.

Some families you just can't do this shit with.

@Tepid_Tapir @jcbrand @Tfmonkey @mangeurdenuage thats why u abandon them

@antichrist_hater
Tbh even tho I criticize/complain I pass too much time on fedi when I have time for myself.

@mangeurdenuage @antichrist_hater @Tfmonkey >freelance
there’s your problem dimbadss
do paidlance instead