@Victor_Emmanuel @Giganova8 by example

@hikari @Giganova8 so not at all then.

@Victor_Emmanuel @Giganova8 @BowsacNoodle I found your woman beater

@hikari @BowsacNoodle @Giganova8 I also believe that spanking is a valid form of discipline on a child. Does them make me a child abuser?

@Victor_Emmanuel @BowsacNoodle @Giganova8 lol spanking a child and beating a woman aren't really as comparable as you might think

@hikari @BowsacNoodle @Giganova8 where did I say beating?

@Victor_Emmanuel @hikari @Giganova8 >where did I say beating?
Considering the above post is literally using the word "violence" and you ask "how am I supposed to enforce authority then?", it isn't a gigantic leap.

@BowsacNoodle @hikari @Giganova8 spanking is a form of violence and Platinum seems to be against any form of physical correction.

@Victor_Emmanuel @BowsacNoodle @Giganova8 I'm alright with limited physical correction of a child who is without logic, reason or experience. It may be necessary in order to protect them from, for example, running into traffic
You don't need to beat an adult woman

@hikari @Victor_Emmanuel @BowsacNoodle @Giganova8

implying adult human women totally act logical and unchildish

@Nocturn_Adrift @BowsacNoodle @Victor_Emmanuel @Giganova8 I was anticipating this reply lol
Are you pro beating?

@hikari @BowsacNoodle @Victor_Emmanuel @Giganova8 Oh yeah totally you got me

@Nocturn_Adrift @BowsacNoodle @Victor_Emmanuel @Giganova8 it's the subject of the thread, calm down
Pretty reasonable to ask

@hikari @BowsacNoodle @Victor_Emmanuel @Giganova8 I’m not invested in the topic itself; I just feel compelled to remind people that women are very different than men and to consider them equal is folly. I treat women like overgrown children because that’s quite literally who they are naturally.

Apply any treatment you would give to your eldest teen daughter in the house and bam that’s your general baseline for treating your woman. It’s that easy and it’s unfortunate that people make discussions surrounding women like this big mystery, debate, scholmackle, etc.

@Nocturn_Adrift @BowsacNoodle @Victor_Emmanuel @Giganova8 no one said they're identical to men, I'm saying you don't need to launch them down the stairs for making dinner late

@hikari @Nocturn_Adrift @BowsacNoodle @Giganova8 When has anyone in this thread said that?

@Victor_Emmanuel @hikari @Nocturn_Adrift @BowsacNoodle @Giganova8 "apply violence" -victor emmanuel

@Xeraser @hikari @Nocturn_Adrift @BowsacNoodle @Giganova8 Spanking is violence. Would you like me to go into detail as to what I believe acceptable or not acceptable forms of physical discipline?

@Victor_Emmanuel @hikari @Nocturn_Adrift @BowsacNoodle @Giganova8 You can spare me the details, I already think you're a trash subhuman who shouldn't reproduce solely based on how you'd threat your forever hypothetical wife.

@Xeraser @Victor_Emmanuel @hikari @Nocturn_Adrift @Giganova8 Hey can we all maybe chill and acknowledge that sometimes internet text posts are just a way for people to express and work out thoughts and beliefs and don't necessarily mean a person has some eternal belief cemented into their soul forever or is incapable of changing their mind? For crying out loud what the heck?

@BowsacNoodle @Victor_Emmanuel @hikari @Nocturn_Adrift @Giganova8 >he's only being ironic about beating his wife, totally not repeating his stance ad nauseam

oh, my bad, i totally apologize :akkoshrug:

@Xeraser @BowsacNoodle @hikari @Nocturn_Adrift @Giganova8 You are totally lacking in nuance.

@Victor_Emmanuel @BowsacNoodle @hikari @Nocturn_Adrift @Giganova8 Says the guy who'd slap his wife for cooking him a medium steak instead of a medium-rare one?

@Xeraser @BowsacNoodle @hikari @Nocturn_Adrift @Giganova8 Fucking where did I say that. You continue to ignore my clarifications.
“Violence is required for authority”
“So you would beat your wife”
“Spanking is violence.”
“So you would beat her with a frying pan if she over did dinner”
“No, but I would spank her if she picked a fight”
“I hope you never reproduce”

@Victor_Emmanuel @Xeraser @hikari @Nocturn_Adrift @Giganova8 Alright so I'll ask you to clarify then. Having read some of this discussion, do you see how your comments could come across as pretty bad and does it maybe make you reevaluate things at all? Or if this is just people missing the point of what you're saying, can you explain a bit? Or are you just into spanking women (much less bad that beating them TBH and you can probably find a woman who's into it).

@BowsacNoodle @Xeraser @hikari @Nocturn_Adrift @Giganova8 It's getting late and everyone is pretty heated, so here is what I'm going to do. I'll make a post tomorrow, tag you Xeraser and Platinum, and lay out my case for what is abusive what isn't abusive correct vs bad forms of physical correction ect. and you three can can give your criticisms, and I hope not a strawman of me. Sound good?

@Victor_Emmanuel @Xeraser @hikari @Nocturn_Adrift @Giganova8 I mean yeah that's fine, but this thread is going to be up and people are going to rip on you all night. You can answer with yes or no to the three questions I asked and give your detailed answer tomorrow. I even left you an out by using soft words that shifted the blame away from you towards communication and interpretation errors.

@BowsacNoodle @Xeraser @hikari @Nocturn_Adrift @Giganova8 >Having read some of this discussion, do you see how your comments could come across as pretty bad and does it maybe make you reevaluate things at all?
I won’t reevaluate until they argue with what I said and mean.

>Or if this is just people missing the point of what you're saying, can you explain a bit?
I believe this is mostly the problem. I think they latched onto “violence” and then interpreted everything I said after wards in the worst possible light.
>Or are you just into spanking women
Yea, but if the woman I marry isn’t into spanking in a sexual context then we’ll stay strictly vanilla.

@Victor_Emmanuel @BowsacNoodle @Nocturn_Adrift @Xeraser @Giganova8 You said you wanted to spank your women to correct her. We addressed that and called it abuse. You compared it to children. I affirm that women aren't children, you don't.

Now that we've arrived that you're just *into* spanking women, I'm willing to conclude that this is just a fetish for you and you've let it seep into non-sexual, real world values

@hikari @BowsacNoodle @Nocturn_Adrift @Victor_Emmanuel @Xeraser @Giganova8
Women are like children.
White children should generally not be spanked, that's for niggers and spicy.
White children can usually learn just fine without any violence whatsoever.

@special-boy @hikari @Giganova8 @Nocturn_Adrift @Victor_Emmanuel @Xeraser I have multiple children and I can assure you that there is a certain age where they have the ability to severely hurt themselves or others but cannot yet be reasoned with. My son could climb up on the counter and start the stove by himself before he was two years old. There is no way to reason a one year old out of doing something that could cause him harm.

@BowsacNoodle @hikari @Giganova8 @Nocturn_Adrift @Victor_Emmanuel @Xeraser
If they can't know what they are doing how is punishing them for it effective?
At best they'll get an unreasonable fear of the stove and at worst of you.

@special-boy @Giganova8 @Nocturn_Adrift @Victor_Emmanuel @Xeraser @hikari >If they can't know what they are doing how is punishing them for it effective?
The same way that scolding a dog immediately after an accident teaches them not to repeat the behavior.
>At best they'll get an unreasonable fear of the stove and at worst of you.
A one year old SHOULD be afraid of the stove. A one year old SHOULD learn that when mom or dad say "No!" that means listen or a tap on butt. They learn very quickly, and my son never once became afraid of me or my wife in the process. When a child is old enough to rationalize the situation themselves and the parent can be sure they won't be maimed, they can be allowed to hurt themselves for disobeying.
>"Don't touch the stove son! It's hot!"
>*Son touches stove and gets slight burn on fingertip*
This works on a three year old and sometimes a two year old. It rarely works on a one year old, but the bigger concern is that he goes full open palm on the frying pan and gives himself third degree burns. Hence my rationale here: if he can control himself enough to limit the damage that his disobedience causes, I can allow him to get a small lesson in the school of life.

@BowsacNoodle @Giganova8 @Nocturn_Adrift @Victor_Emmanuel @Xeraser @hikari
I've watched my mother care for dozens of children of about that age and never once did she need to do that.
Eben when there where half a dozen of them and only one of her.
It is very possible to keep them from danger until they can understand your orders.

@special-boy @Giganova8 @Nocturn_Adrift @Victor_Emmanuel @Xeraser @hikari Okay and your anecdote mirrors my own experience with some of my children but not others. As I said previously, "every child is different". This idea that magically a kid won't ever need corporal punishment if they're White is foolish. If you get a group of children from 1-5, you will see insane differences in development that normalize as the children age. This is a known thing. The purpose of spanking is to communicate a message when words do not do the trick yet. Additionally, this goes back to the core of this thread because woman are capable of rationalizing and talking and do not need to be treated as literal children when disagreements occur.

@BowsacNoodle @special-boy @Giganova8 @Victor_Emmanuel @Xeraser @hikari The only reasonable “disciplinary” tool men ultimately have is the power to leave and for that I think it’s worth it to rethink the institution of marriage

@Nocturn_Adrift @special-boy @Giganova8 @Victor_Emmanuel @Xeraser @hikari >MGTOW
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@BowsacNoodle @Nocturn_Adrift @Victor_Emmanuel @Xeraser @special-boy @Giganova8 mgtow sufferers have a 70% chance of their penis falling off
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