@BHG

It wasn't too long after Dubya won in '01 and everyone realized how dumb he was that I had my 1st redpill - that if he could be Pres then it was all just a dynastic clown show and that the President wasn't the one in charge. Mind blown.

Looking back they had a lot of hubris. While they were jacking off to perma-Republican dreams, Obama/Clintons/Dems were actually seizing power.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2004/05/how-bush-chose-stupidity.html