@houseoftolstoy Good Sir, I request your assistance on a matter. It involves a woman, my poor judgement and wholesomeness.
@houseoftolstoy Alright would be willing to provide your perspective on a completely hypothetical not real at all story, should I Storytime it for you? It wouldn't be terribly long but I would appreciate your thoughts on all the nonsense.
@houseoftolstoy So every month at work we partner up with a sister group have some trainings and classes together, and there is a woman who started talking to me first conversation went interestingly enough for us to talk again the following month. Then a few encounters later she asks for my number as she is transferring to another section, I tell her good luck and hope the transfer goes well and she says she's going to miss me, and I say the same. Then it becomes calling and texting for a bit, which turns into almost daily calling for several hours almost everyday for a month. The transfer still hasn't gone through and she couldn't find a good excuse not to show up to the trainings so she is there on her birthday so give her some small trinkets. We go to Dave and Busters to celebrate as she's never gone, then afterword get some borgars and chat for a bit. We continue to talk and I make her a deal that I would go up and visit her if she would do the same since we live kinda far from each other and we would show each other fun and interesting places. The thing happens, she shows me a touristy bridge and trail. On the on the way back we go with my route which happens to be down a very steep hill through rough terrain, questionable shimming along grating fences over questionable heights, past angry swans guarding eggs, unstable footing and over a fence or two. A few scrapes cuts and close calls later laughs were had and then motor scooters acquired, my fears of falling from a scooter heavily noticed and several agonizing minutes later we arrived at snack parlor sometime later. Conversation had and canvases acquired we took off to the lake to paint the lake before the sun disappeared and it was relaxing. So peace talks continue and I have mentioned the agreement she said she was interested and wanted to be surprised by what I came up with rather than told what it was.


That is the tale so far, and I will keep your scope untainted by not asking anything in particular other than what is your thinking of this story?

@MasterSimper First off, this "sister group" is in the same employer, correct? This is going to be the first cause of concern if you have an interest in this woman. Which is too bad, because the other parts of the story tell me there is mutual interest.

Some employers have explicit prohibitions on fraternizing, and if that is the case with your employer, you cannot go further. There might be other policies to consider too which could put you in a bad situation.

@MasterSimper Your first priority is to avoid any problems like this. If that means nothing further can come of your encounter, then you might have to accept that. Outside of that situation, I would be upfront with any intentions you would have. OUTSIDE OF WORK, there is no reason to not just lay out what you are wanting. If a woman does not want what you want, she can let you know and you can go your separate ways. It saves everyone time.

@MasterSimper Again, the advice of "don't shit where you eat," should be the first priority. If she were to press the issue, just be upfront about you having a policy of not dating anyone you work with, and that it is nothing against her personally (if that is indeed the case).

I cannot tell you play by play what to do, but I express that you should be cautious when it comes to workplace related things like this.

@houseoftolstoy Let us say there are no prohibitions and work stuff plays a very little part other than we have a common background in what we do and how we met.

@MasterSimper Okay, the next thing to consider is not just prohibitions, but also consequences of any relationships within the workplace. If any relationship goes south, you may have some awkward times in the workplace going forward. And the worst case scenario is false accusations against you.

Not saying that will happen for sure, but it is important to be aware of the risks.

Again, I cannot know the whole situation you are going through. I just am expressing caution.

@houseoftolstoy Alright alright precautions taken, warnings received and dire threats of impending doom heeded. Honestly the work stuff is the least of the issues I know exactly what I'm doing in that area and how awkward and strange things get from past experience. However I am rather one of those people who would live with consequences of doing of the thing then the regret of having not done something.

Tell me more of these upfront intentions which I understand completely why and the purpose, but I need it in text so I can read it and go damn it hes right, I hate him but damnit he's right. It helps me think things through. you know for the story thats completely made up and not real.

@MasterSimper Putting aside the whole work thing then.

The purpose of being upfront is to not waste time or opportunities. There is no magic moment when a woman is going to be more likely to reciprocate interest, she already will know what she wants. You simply find out faster where you stand.

It also helps you from feeling heartbreak if you are rejected. Waiting longer just means you are investing more time in a woman before you even have a relationship.

@MasterSimper If a woman was going to reject your advances when you ask, you just figured out that she was not interested in you that way. If she says yes, you get to move forward with things.

This principle also works for escalating a relationship to more serious stages. If she were to be put off by the idea of taking the relationship further, then you just saved yourself time and energy by not keeping with a woman who is not ready to be serious when you are.

@houseoftolstoy Thank you wise internet person. I tell you I will read these words then go in my head and say Strength and Courage MasterSimper Strength and Courage. then boldly do nonsense like I always do and tell them in a few days. So the most likely I will have another female fren to bother when I need to sort out my mind on another woman.
@houseoftolstoy I want you to know soon it will happen and it will be very silly. As since I already asked her if she wanted to do fun exciting things which is how we started doin things, and now Im gonna ask her if she wants to go out. Also I hate you, damn it why do you have to be right.
@houseoftolstoy updateo I have done the thing and it is as hard as I imagined. I have no waifu to show for it. Though I can live with myself I so I guess alls well that ends well.
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