@s2208 how much do you want to bet these people cheering for lower birth rates to "save the planet" or "don't want their hypothetical children to suffer" have no issue with mass immigration to their countries? If we are meant to reduce the population, bringing in more people from countries that have positive birth rates just negates the whole "save the planet" nonsense, since those people are now consuming resources at a greater rate in 1st world countries than their countries of origin.