By the way, not to be creepy, but can you tell a difference when I don't take my benzodiazepines medication in how I express myself from the usual benzo sedated conversations I have. I just feel completely different without that medication.
@dicey I don't spend enough time on fedi to get a proper read on the people here really, so I don't think so.
Well I can tell you it's day and night internally in my head. I awake. And think much quicker. My senses return.
@dicey That's good, benzos are a savage and evil drug
You really make being on here worthwhile. Just by your presence. You add a certain sensibility to the experience of being here everyday. I'm sure @Leaflord agrees
@dicey @Leaflord Thank you Dicey. I am glad that my anti-semitism with plausible deniability can bring some SENSE to this two bit social network
>anti-semitism with plausible deniability
The irony
Einstein was a jew. I haven't heard anyone hating him, it would be strange. It's really not about who you are but what people do.
@dicey @hidden @Leaflord @Hyolobrika you havent heard he was a fraud, or about his not so great personal relations?
I heard it from one person just now. The great individual going under the name of gav

@dicey @gav @hidden @Leaflord @Hyolobrika

"Albert Einstein presented the theories of special relativity and general relativity in publications that either contained no formal references to previous literature, or referred only to a small number of his predecessors"

"Subsequently, claims have been put forward about both theories, asserting that they were formulated, either wholly or in part, by others before Einstein"

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relati

@dicey @gav @hidden @Leaflord @Hyolobrika

In his History of the theories of ether and electricity from 1953, E. T. Whittaker claimed that relativity is the creation of Poincaré and Lorentz and attributed to Einstein's papers only little importance

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relati

@shortstories @dicey @gav @hidden @Leaflord @Hyolobrika Yes and No. Lorentz did indeed derived the Lorentz transformation, but in the context of the Aether Luminipherous theory, so it maintained that it existed a privileged reference frame for light, Einstein throw away all that stating that the laws of nature must be the same for all reference frames. That's why Einstein had to state that light had a constant value ( i.e. light particles are massless ) which was the same for all reference frames.

@TheMadPirate @gav @hidden @Leaflord @dicey @Hyolobrika

In physics, an object, like your pants, can shrink when you put them in the dryer. But the dryer can NEVER shrink the “length” of your pants. Length is a static qualitative property that can neither shrink nor expand.....no way in Hell.

discover.hubpages.com/educatio

Relativity Length Contraction is a Fraud by Fatfist

discover.hubpages dot com

@shortstories @gav @hidden @Leaflord @dicey @Hyolobrika you will need to observing an going at least .5c to observe a noticeable length contraction.
And you will need a video camera of at least 1/(.5c) fps to observe it.

@TheMadPirate @gav @hidden @Leaflord @dicey @Hyolobrika

1 / 0.5c = time / length

time / length frames per second makes no sense

This might be some number of seconds per meter per second

or in other words a camera rate of per meter

like some number of meters to the negative one power

Your units are wrong

Rethink and or rewrite what you are trying to say

@TheMadPirate @gav @hidden @Leaflord @dicey @Hyolobrika

Supposedly clocks moving at fast speeds relative to one another that started at the same time before they started moving relative to one another will give different results although I have never tested that

But that does not prove Einstein's theory because other theories also give that result

Self contrafictions disprove Einstein's theory

Those who point out Einstein's contradictions are called not smart or antisemitic

That the clocks moved at different rates also doesn't prove that time moved at different rates. It only proves that matter is affected by velocity. Calling that effect "time" is an operational definition at best.
@Humpleupagus @gav @hidden @Leaflord @shortstories @dicey @Hyolobrika The main problem with Relativity is that it is a non-local theory whereas Quatum Mechanics is a local theory, therefore there is a fundamental clash between the two theories that makes it really hard to unify them into a cohesive theory.

@TheMadPirate @gav @hidden @Humpleupagus @Leaflord @dicey @Hyolobrika

A car is moving a 0.99 times the speed of light relative to the ground on the race track & the finish line

A wall is a certain distance past the finish line

When the center of the car touches the finish line for both reference frames

From one reference frame the car hits the wall

From the other reference frame the car does not hit the wall

For a certain car length and wall distance from the finish line

So contradictory

@shortstories @gav @hidden @Humpleupagus @Leaflord @dicey @Hyolobrika In other words, in both situations the car hits the wall, but they do it at different "times", one is the time observed by the driver and the other is the time observed by the audience.
@TheMadPirate @hidden @Humpleupagus @Leaflord @shortstories @dicey @Hyolobrika time is a thing, it has no frame it as no traits, things do not and can not experience different times, nor do either of these examples exist, nor is their anything to indicate that c is an actual impedance to acceleration, its entirely presumptive, things for some reason happen to never reach that speed
@TheMadPirate @hidden @Humpleupagus @Leaflord @shortstories @dicey @Hyolobrika relativism is literally post modern, nor does anything i saaid have to do with either of those things whatsoever
@gav @hidden @Humpleupagus @Leaflord @shortstories @dicey @Hyolobrika Well, x, y, z and ct are the coordinates, but usually it is used what it is called "natural coordinates" in which you rescale everything so as to make c = 1.
@TheMadPirate @hidden @Humpleupagus @Leaflord @shortstories @dicey @Hyolobrika "In both situations the car will hit the wall, the only difference is when" explain how this is not entirely meaningless
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@gav @hidden @TheMadPirate @Humpleupagus @Leaflord @dicey @Hyolobrika

According to the theory the car will not hit the wall in one reference frame but will hit it in the other reference frame when the center of the car crosses the finish line because from one reference frame the car shrinks and the ground stays the same size and from the other reference frame the ground shrinks and the car stays the same sjze

That is why you can know the theory is wrong without experiments

And I will log out

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@TheMadPirate @hidden @Humpleupagus @Leaflord @shortstories @dicey @Hyolobrika how is that not meaningless, seriously what does time taking longer for the car mean,
@gav @TheMadPirate @Humpleupagus @Hyolobrika @Leaflord @dicey @hidden @shortstories Here's the classical thought experiment which is supposed to answer this question:

A 'light clock' is a photon bouncing back and forth between two mirrors at a fixed distance. Each bounce counts as one 'tick' of the clock.

If I take two identical copies of this clock and have one fixed and one moving (in a direction parallel to the mirrors at a speed less than c), then I will observe that the 'ticks' of the moving clock happen slower than the 'ticks' of the fixed clock. This is because the photon of the moving clock has to travel a longer distance (see pic) and the speed of light is (assumed to be) constant.

If relativity holds, then I will observe the opposite result of the experiment (the ticks of one clock happening faster than the other) if I move along with the moving clock.

The idea of "experiencing time slower" is a bit meaningless and I think it's meant to conjure an image of a particle carrying a tiny little light clock inside of it. But the overall message of the thought experiment is not meaningless: if you believe that light should have the same speed in any reference frame, then certain questions of "before" or "after" also depend on the reference frame in which you ask.

...Maybe some particles do carry little clocks inside, like when you have radioactive decay?
@ai @gav @hidden @TheMadPirate @Humpleupagus @Leaflord @shortstories @dicey @Hyolobrika time dilation isn't real, there's 0 proof, literally any experiment's results are so small and irrelevant that it can be chalked up to standard error.

Also the graphs you posted are fucking retarded, jumping in a car doesn't make you travel longer distance nor affects how long the ride takes, you're just jumping in a car. This is one thing retardationlists miss - when everything is oh so relative, the particle and the object carrying it is one and same physical object.
@ai @Humpleupagus @Hyolobrika @Leaflord @TheMadPirate @dicey @hidden @shortstories the light emited from a moving object shouldnt follow it in the first place, it doesnt retain the inertia of the object it leaves

radioactive decay should be a structural problem inside nuclei, theyre in a period of spiraling out like a top, theyre mostly isolated so its mostly constant, assumably their electron clouds should have some effect because they effect the nucleuss density, and should pull protons. more than neutrons

also, inertia might afect nuclear decay by slightly compressing the front of the nucleus

@gav @hidden @TheMadPirate @Humpleupagus @Leaflord @dicey @Hyolobrika

If two clocks are set to the same time at the start of an experiment

Then a experimental treatment occurs

The special and or general theory of relativity predicts what times the clock will display after the experiment & so do other theories

These experiments are beyond the $$$ access of common people

Fake Data?

Displaying a different value on a clock does not mean time slowed down or sped up or took longer or shorter

@shortstories @hidden @TheMadPirate @Humpleupagus @Leaflord @dicey @Hyolobrika >Displaying a different value on a clock does not mean time slowed down or sped up or took longer or shorter

it just doesnt because time isnt a thing it doesnt alter, so if a clock displayed wrong something was done to its mechanism. if you have to choose between c or t beong variable, you have to choose c
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