Extremely good question

@WhiteJihadJaws And as someone who grew up Lutheran I've had this conversation with Christians of all flavors and they really have no response other than "AntiSemetisms bad"

i grew up Lutheran also.. my great aunt and grandparents were extremely religious .
i still remeber going to their church

@fknretardlol @Escoffier @WhiteJihadJaws Which Bible are they reading?

If it's a Scofield variant, that's how.

@NoDoxGregBrady @fknretardlol @WhiteJihadJaws Yeah Dispensationsalism has had an enormous impact on the Church. I know I just stumbled on several profoundly antisemitic quotes from Church fathers that just blew me away and when you share them with normie Christians it borders on the comical

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%2011&version=NKJV

This basically says Israel (which I interpret to mean jews, though that word means so many things that it's hard to say) will return to God one day, and there are hints about that in Revelation (the 144,000; 12,000 from each tribe, including Judah). A remnant will be saved.

Somehow that turned into "give the jews all your money and don't ever say anything bad about them or God is going to send you to hell" over the years.

isreal we know today , is NOT the origin of the Israelites of the Bible ..
its all confusing

I'm still trying to understand who "the jews" of today actually are (as are most people). I have heard they are Khazarians who have nothing to do with ancient Israel in Jesus' time, and yet they do and act the exact same way as the Pharisees, so I find it hard to believe there's no linkage at all.

There's this sort of "today's jews aren't real jews, but real jews back then were also just as evil" thing going on.

@vic @fknretardlol @Escoffier @NoDoxGregBrady Khazar theory gets too much traction. Essentially Khazaria was just another empire that had exponentially growing jewish influence over it like the United states today. Calling jews khazarians is like people 100 years from now saying "no those weren't REAL jews, they were AMERICANS".

That being said, it gives a lesson that if jewish influence isn't properly fought, we will be remembered at least by niche circles in the future as all being jews.

The way I understand it now, the term "jew" has at least four different possible meanings:

Circa 600 B.C., someone from the tribe of Judah (and possibly Benjamin, as both tribes formed the Southern Kingdom)
Circa 30 A.D., someone who lived in the Judea region of Israel
In modern times, someone who practices the "religion" of Judaism, which is a front for Kabbalah that rose after the destruction of the temple in 70 A.D.
In modern times, someone who is "racially jewish" which is the most confusing definition of all, given that the 12-ish tribes ("ish" because a few members came and went over time) had mostly dissipated even before Jesus.
In modern times, someone on the internet that Jonny doesn't like.

But of course there's also the assertion about the word "jew" being invented in the 1850s, so maybe there were more precise terms for each of the above before then. Trying to figure this out is like trying to solve a crime scene that happened a century ago and has been tampered with endlessly.

@vic @fknretardlol @Escoffier @NoDoxGregBrady The racial term is not confusing as it seems. Their are the ashkanazi, the sephardi, the mizrahi. These are all racial classifications rather than religious classification with its own implicit place in their hierarchy, with ashkanazi at the top.

I'm guessing the Khazar fixation stems from Hitchcock's The Synagogue of Satan, where he briefly describes Khazaria around 900 A.D. and how they branded themselves as "jews," eventually forming the Rothschild lineage in the 1700s and spiraling into the shadowy demon lizard overlords of today.

It seemed a little incoherent of an explanation and he didn't list any sources, but I've been meaning to dig deeper into it to find out where that theory originated.

Maybe I'll do some reading on Ashkenazim origins next. It's just nearly impossible to find a trustworthy source (which I believe is intentional).

@vic @fknretardlol @Escoffier @NoDoxGregBrady @WhiteJihadJaws

1 Alfred Hitchcock literally made holocaust propaganda films

2 There is simple and undisputeable evidence that Ashkenazi Jews are from the Soviet Union and. Europe because that is where they have lived before 1948, because their languages are closer to European and Soviet languages than ancient Hebrew where as the Palestinian and Muslim Syrian, Arabic and Aramaic is closer to ancient Hebrew.