In fact I don’t think anyone bothered to remove the Deuterocanon in the KJV until midway through the 19th Century

Luther also accepted the apocrypha as inspired, so traditional protestantism is in keeping.

Yep; the vast majority of Traditional Christendom had no objection to the inclusion of the Deuterocanon, and today’s proliferation of translations that exclude them will likely go down in history as some Great Apostasy or whatnot.

Isn't the Apostasy the prelude to the Tribulation?

Yeah that’s the going rate; no man knows the day or the hour though so … don’t get too comfy either way

We're definitely getting closer to the end of the world.

I'm waiting for those two Witnesses to appear in Jerusalem and spend 3 years preaching about repentance.

Revelation 11: 1 - 11

"I was given a reed like a measuring rod and was told, “Go and measure the temple of God and the altar, with its worshipers. But exclude the outer court; do not measure it, because it has been given to the Gentiles. They will trample on the holy city for 42 months. And I will appoint my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth.” They are “the two olive trees” and the two lampstands, and “they stand before the Lord of the earth.” If anyone tries to harm them, fire comes from their mouths and devours their enemies. This is how anyone who wants to harm them must die. They have power to shut up the heavens so that it will not rain during the time they are prophesying; and they have power to turn the waters into blood and to strike the earth with every kind of plague as often as they want.

Now when they have finished their testimony, the beast that comes up from the Abyss will attack them, and overpower and kill them. Their bodies will lie in the public square of the great city—which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt—where also their Lord was crucified. For three and a half days some from every people, tribe, language and nation will gaze on their bodies and refuse them burial. The inhabitants of the earth will gloat over them and will celebrate by sending each other gifts, because these two prophets had tormented those who live on the earth.

But after the three and a half days the breath[b] of life from God entered them, and they stood on their feet, and terror struck those who saw them. Then they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, “Come up here.” And they went up to heaven in a cloud, while their enemies looked on."

The way I’ve heard it explained; a man can be near-to-death, really and truly - and still recover completely. So too the End of the World; we’ve been near-to-the-End really and truly, by all signs and signals - and The Lord in His Infinite Wisdom can and has chosen to tarry.

i watched a vidja that said the antichrist will be a jew, and that this is what the church has believed for a long time.

i didn't believe it outright, i just thought it was interesting to listen to

From the Tribe of Dan, no less

yea that's what the video said

Dan arent jews

Yeah it’s not about Dan being jews or not; it’s that the antiChrist is slated to be a jew from the Tribe of Dan

>a jew from the tribe of dan

but the tribe of dan aren't jews. have a link to this video i'm sure i will hate?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd3rCTVvm_w

thanks bud

I dunno why YouTube algorithm decoded i needed to see this but hes not a particularly good speaker but I have a high tolerance for low quality youtubers

i was actually just thinking this :pepe_shiteatinggrin:

You hate what i say but this dude sounds like he has an extra chromosome. I am defeated.

I dunno that I'd go that far he just sounds like hes not used to long-form speaking

There’s a ”guy on the bus“ from about fifteen years ago, especially, that comes to mind

There was also a bus driver that said this, and another “guy on the bus” from closer to twenty-five years ago, but he was a retired drill sergeant and kind of reminded me of Full Metal Jacket.

Ngl - many of the people I heard this from over the years sounded a lot like this guy 😅

I do not have a link, as I’m only aware of this through word-of-mouth since I was a teen, and having heard it reiterated over a dozen times.

A man can be descended from the Tribe of Dan, and have a jewish mother - and qualify as a “jew”. There is no lack of plausible scenarios wherein such a state of affairs can come to pass. I too agree than Dan isn’t jews - it just doesn’t really change anything one way or another.

1 John 2:18
Children, it is the last hour; and as you have heard that antichrist is coming, so now many antichrists have come; therefore we know that it is the last hour


It was already the last hour in Johns time.

Indeed, it’s been the last hour for nigh 2000 years

That this indicates something of the nature of the relationship between Temporal Reality and Eternity can safely be inferred from the apparent discrepancy.

Honestly the more people talk about the end of the world, the more I think God will push it back further down the timeline as a joke for all of those that think the time is nigh.

Though I don’t know that I’d consider it a joke so much - I do remain convinced Our Lord plans to keep things chugging along up until He deems there’s no-one left that’s interested in Salvation. And if taking Revelation seriously is any indicator, it remains as wildly popular as it ever was; which suggests to me there are still many such people.

By this logic the end will never come because people always think its nigh.

The end is set in stone. Thats how omniscience works. He already knows because he has already seen it.

Yeah He already knows - it would be impossible for any of us to know, as we can’t know the inner reality of any other man - and indeed hardly even know our own, typically.

it will be on time.

Every Man will know; every knee will bow; all will realize He is Just, and that His Judgment is perfect Justice

Amen. Our issue is patience. We are under spiritual attack for loving Christ. Yes the Devil knows scripture. But he doesn’t know love. He can’t read hearts and or minds.

Those who endure to the end. We’ll be saved. The Kingdom that Christ prepared will not be this system.

I can scarcely imagine; I can scarcely even imagine imagining - a mirror, dimly would be a big improvement. But I have zero doubt about it; nothing is more certain.

Doubt and Thinking we are worthless to receive the blessing of Christ. We need to feed on Gods Word daily. Spiritual food needs to be taken in daily.

@DMA
It is going to be so wonderful when all of us White people are extinct but are saved in heaven with fellow Christians.

@shortstories @Dagnar @Xenophon @Bunsen @KingOfWhiteAmerica @WhitestTemplar @Witch_Hunter_Siegfried

Sir, those are animals in the picture.

No nigger monkeys in heaven (which is on earth)

God can literally change the nature of time itself. It would be on time even if he changed his mind. It would be like the Mandela Effect, but real, or maybe God created the Mandela Effect, once again as a joke.

No

The Almighty God is Limitless, and does whatever He pleases. His Nature is entirely beyond the loftiest conception of mortal Man. Whatever knowledge we have of Him, is Divine Condescension for our sake, and for His Greater Glory - and necessarily falls short of any certainty about the Divine Nature. And while the Creation of the Cosmos is fingerplay (Psalm 8:3), the Salvation of a Human Soul is the work of His Arm (Isaiah 52:10).

God does not lie or change. The time is set.

Yes I agree; He is incapable of lying, as per Saint Paul; and He is the same yesterday, today and forever. He also knows the Day and the Hour, and He does whatever He pleases. Not sure where any dispute could be

The great time keeper knows we are dust and can repair us.

i'm comfy they can't stop me, i could get comfy in a pile of mud.

People act like this means no one will ever be right but thats clesrly false. Time is finite. If every person on the planet picked a different day going forward someone would get it because we would cover the next 24.5 million years

Indeed; someone(s) could very well be right - but only the Father knows this, beforehand.

@Xenophon @Bernard @Dagnar @KingOfWhiteAmerica @WhitestTemplar @Witch_Hunter_Siegfried

If you go to a Missouri or Wisconsin Synod Lutheran Church as far as I know they have the same books as most Baptist and Pentecostal Churches and do not have the books Roman Catholics have

As far as I am concerned those Lutheran denominations want to hide what Luther taught about Jews and about Polygyny or at least avoid bringing it up if they can and their members generally disagree with Luther about them