I take it for granted that the pope is evil and likes to control people too much on account of him claiming to be infallible
But why are the Jesuits considered more evil than the other ultramontane Catholic groups that claim papal infallibilty?
Why do people say bad things about the Jesuits more often than about other ultramontane Catholic groups?
@shortstories Sort of like the Vatican’s “CIA”
@multiversal_gangstalker @shortstories That’s what it looks like to me, too; a far-flung medieval Empire, that grew out from Traditional Christendom
@multiversal_gangstalker @shortstories Prior to that, the Orthodox model was the default throughout Christendom, featuring what amount to Ethnic National Churches whose leadership springs from ideally loyal citizen/subjects of a given kingdom.
@bigmattoidchimpin @shortstories A lot of people shit-talk Jesuits, but their deeds and motivations aren’t any different from any political body acting in its own interests. The Vatican doesn’t fail to have political interests simply because it’s ”a Church”.
@captainslow @bigmattoidchimpin @shortstories Where else would I go ? He has the Words of Eternal Life 🙏🏻
@captainslow @bigmattoidchimpin @shortstories Absolutely; big big part of why I had to be Orthodox.
@captainslow @bigmattoidchimpin @shortstories I hold a special place in my heart for the foundational institution of my ancestral Civilization; but in retrospect I sincerely think they “lost the plot” with the Papacy in the 11th Century. I don’t blame my ancestors - how on Earth could they have known ? I beg the Almighty God for His Infinite Mercy to be extended to the men and women of The West 🙏🏻
@captainslow @bigmattoidchimpin @shortstories I was Baptized in the ROCOR, back in the mid-‘10s. Eventually the scamdemic “chased us out”, and we ended up amongst the Catacomb Russians and Greek Old Calendarists. One cool thing to me about Orthodoxy is the understanding that it’s the Faith that Saves; and the Bishops are obligated to act in the interests of said Faith, above all else - with an effect that looks alarming to people who believe Communion with the “proper Bishop” is what’s most important. It certainly looks like disunity - but the true unity is The Faith.
Our Bishops have proven they’ll drop any and all other disputes, and Commune with anyone Baptized who believes the True Faith. Of course, they’re very “persnicketty” regarding exact details — but that’s their job.
@captainslow @bigmattoidchimpin @shortstories Oh no, absolutely no doubt. From my perspective, there are at very least hundreds of “Faith Communions” operant throughout The West. Each “novel take“, every dissenting opinion, any conceivable variation on The Gospel Message … I’ve seen stats upward of 40,000, but I have a hard time believing each of those are really distinct. Could be, though.
@captainslow @bigmattoidchimpin @shortstories Yeah we got basically the same thing going on; the Calendar Rift is probably technically “workable”, if it were ever really on its own. But it clearly isn’t; they’re virtually all Ecumenist, and usually Modernist, and the overall result is I find Sedes and sometimes even Prots who are by all evidence nearer to The Faith, even than many cradle World Orthodox. Heck of a situation.
@captainslow @bigmattoidchimpin @shortstories Yep, apparently a whole Nation stuffed to the gills with “Laodiceans”. I pray The Lord’s Mercy on all who’ve clearly heard The Master’s Voice - wherever they happened to land at this stage 🙏🏻
@DMA @captainslow @bigmattoidchimpin @shortstories Seems pretty dern relevant !
@bigmattoidchimpin @shortstories @captainslow Maybe; I pray nonetheless ! 🙏🏻
@shortstories That’s a good question.
”Jesuits” is often used as a catch-all term for Vatican City Intelligence Agencies. It’s used as such because it represents the biggest and most visible example of an externally-monastic agency serving primarily political, rather than religious goals.