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Beta is a real number

0 < Beta < 1

F = square root of ( 1 - Beta Squared / ( 1 + Beta Squared ) )

Name at least one rational number value of Beta that gives me a rational number value for F

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If Beta = 4/5 = 0.8

Then 1 - Beta^2 = 0.36

The square root of 0.36 = 0.6 which is a rational number

But
1 + Beta^2 = 16/25 + 25/25 = 41/25

The square root of 41/25 is not a rational number

The square root of a rational number times an irrational number is an irrational number

the recripical of an irrational number is an irrational number

the product of two irrational numbers is an irrational number

the product of two rational numbers is a rational number

So 4/5 does not work for Beta

@shortstories we want
β :
i) β ∈ ℚ

ii) let r = √((1 - β²) ÷ (1 + β²)); r ∈ ℚ

iii) β ∈ (0,1) # assuming exclusive because the above holds trivially for both 0 and 1

suppose β = p ÷ q; q, p ∈ ℤ⁺, q > p

we have
r = √(((q² - p²) ÷ q²) ÷ ((q² + p²) ÷ q²)), to prove r ∈ ℚ

equivalently,
r = √((q² - p²) ÷ (q² + p²))

equivalently,
r = √(q² - p²) ÷ √(q² + p²)

i'm no mathematician but this feels like something with no rational solutions

@HatkeshiatorTND

4/5 is a solution for the numerator but it is not a solution for the denominator and both the numerator and denominator must be rational in order for the numerator divided by the denominator to be rational

@shortstories "the product of two irrational numbers is an irrational number"
false. take a = 2 ↑ (1 ÷ 3), b = 2 ↑ (2 ÷ 3)
a ∉ ℚ ∧ b ∉ ℚ ∧ a · b ∈ ℚ

@KingOfWhiteAmerica @HatkeshiatorTND

Ok I was wrong about the claim that the product of two irrational numbers is always an irrational number

@KingOfWhiteAmerica @shortstories that is a neater solution but it isn't pedagogical since it would invite the request for non-equal irrational numbers.
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