@Tfmonkey If China's economy is fine why did they need a stimulus plan? I understand your position on deflation against the dollar and it makes sense. Plus China has a birth rate problem also and has a debt to gdp of 89% according to the IMF. As people age out of the workforce they will be in the same we are in. Russia is trying to force people to have children as thousands of men have died. So it seems that everyone will tell creditors to eat a dick