This is also why I dislike the "its the jews!!!" quip when it's used both seriously and sarcastically, because in both cases it obfuscates the issues worthy of examination.
When someone's trying to make fun of you for blaming all your woes on "the jews", they are dismissing the idea of corrosive jewish cultural pathogenicity and characterising it as deliberate policy, then saying you're stupid for believing it's real and conspiratorial.
When someone's sincerely trying to diagnose all of society's problems as a case of "the jews", they are (probably inadvertently) conflating these two issues and doing a disservice to their argument by broadly implying that jews must necessarily be aware and deliberately inducing their cultural pathogenicity.
I know this is just wordswordswords and maybe a distinction without a difference (at least in outcomes) but i do think that it is one of the root causes of disagreement between the online hitlerites and the "alt lite" crowd, and i think this disagreement still severely hampers honest discussion of things like israel, the power of jewish lobbies, and anti-white rhetoric - or so my theory goes.