@JohnYoungE I'm specifically thinking of doomers and luddites. They are rooting for everything to fall apart, so they are committed to rejecting all good news. If Trump wins it's bad. If Kamala had won it would be bad. If Biden had hung on it would be bad. They often add on rejection of facts like the Moon landing, and the really psychotic ones claim space does not exist, that everything learned since Galileo is the product of an evil conspiracy to undermine faith.
In such cases there's nothing to discuss.