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Lol. It makes me laugh when you materialist nihilists reach this point and call it "Jesus Fascism".
What happened, the Will to Power journey harder than you thought? Even Nietzsche had more respect for Christianity than that, and that's counting that he didn't really know about the Orthodox concept of theosis, or Orthodoxy in general.
Asceticism isn't exactly a family activity, & "freedom" is not only vague, but repulsive to the majority.
So Buddhism amirite?
@UncleIroh @rohrkrepierer I don't get why you're calling me a materialist nihilist. Can you explain what that means to you? I don't see myself as materialist or nihilist.
No, I was never on board with Nietzsche and Will to Power. My avatar is Schopenhauer ffs.
The answer IS asceticism...the self seeking its highest good through denial of itself in seeking for God. Doesn't matter if it's compatible with everyday "family" life (it is, just harder in that setting). It just is the answer.
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>Doesn't matter if it's compatible with everyday "family" life
Again, lol. Socially, it has to otherwise it's clearly not "the answer".
Reach the major milestones in life first - get married, start a family, develop a career, be known in your community - and then tallk to me about how compatible asceitism is with that, because if you can't then it's of no fucking use.
All the Orthodox Abrahamic religions have solved this by incorporating elements of asceticism.
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Orthodox Jews, Christians and Muslims all have a fasting calendar and encourage periods of self-denial without going full Jain.
You never go full Jain.
@UncleIroh @rohrkrepierer Point is, there is no social solution. Focusing on that in the context of spirituality is a fool's errand, but it gets most of the air time in Christian communities. Theosis is a process between you and Almighty God. Forcing Chrisitianity, or any religion, on a society just creates pretentiousness, power co-opting it for its own purposes, and stupid people using it for their petty, materialistic concerns.
@UncleIroh @rohrkrepierer The Buddha nailed this one with the Middle Way. Self denial but not starving yourself.
It's not about becoming a monk (although that's the quickest path), it's about letting go of yourself, starting with the Will. If God's Will is just whatever actually is, then you surrender your Will to God's Will. That's the journey. It IS compatible with family life, but monkhood is quicker.