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@cjd @amerika @ergo
I support both of them, but I go even beyond: I support every local community to have their own desired system, as long as it's not criminal: it doesn't extort money by force, it doesn't curtail their citizens' freedom (like forbidding them from moving away) and it doesn't exploit under-16 children.
Otherwise they can devise any system they want, from communism to duels/combat arenas to solve their issues.

Similar to how the US constitution was designed...

@cjd
The solution that was used even before the euro comes along, these countries would frequently devaluate their currency to keep their competitive edge. It was a way they found to keep the fiat system but to go around the desire of the people of increasingly requesting more socialism.

In any case, I'm being realistic considering the point we currently are. If it were up to me, just like you said, hard currency, very small government, full local automony, weak federation and tough on crime.

@cjd
First of all, I agree that the solution is to go back to hard currency, Gold, which keeps money as honest as possible. I would say ideally we trade with metal coins instead of paper money and only use XAU/crypto based off real gold for big transfers.

But in Europe, there's the problem of extreme regulation. There are many issues to list, but all of them together (request for raises, inflation, price controls, subsidies, unions, etc) make impossible for prices to go down in EUR terms.

Hahahaha everyone is openly mocking western faggots. Hope all the feminism and diversity was worth it. Who knows? Maybe communism will solve all problems. What a shitshow.
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@cjd
Yes! Because these country are poorer in reality. The euro is way too appreciated/expensive for economies like these 3 I mentioned. The weaker currency means the producers have to raise their productivity, which today is too overinflated due to the euro.
It's a painful pill, but it's lot more honest - despite using the euro, spain for example has NO chance to compete against netherlands. It's a crime they share currency.

As Raison said above, importing immigrats have the inverse effect.

@cjd
95% it will simply be option 1 until collapse.

Option 6 could work if countries work trade deals with other countries to be effective AFTER they leave the euro. Big countries like France, Italy and Spain are able to pull this off.
They will have a competitive advantage of the new depreciating currency where their economy become cheaper. It won't be an easy transition at all but it's an effective way of taking the diet and exercise pill but with the benefit of having more independence.

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There's five things a country can do:

1. Stay in the Euro, keep paying creditors, keep borrowing and pretending (status quo)

2. Stay in the Euro, keep paying creditors, stop irrational spending (the "diet and exercise" answer because it works the best but nobody ever does it)

3. Stay in the Euro, default on debts, irrational spending stops by force because nobody will lend you any more money. Government is fucked, but the country keeps functioning.

4. Leave the Euro, keep paying creditors, keep borrowing and pretending (hyperinflation 💀 )

5. Leave the Euro, keep paying creditors, stop irrational spending (haha nobody gonna do that shit, nice try)

6. Leave the Euro, default on debts... Become financially very isolated, hard to convince anyone to accept your money on foreign exchange markets, imports become challenging, foreign investment scared, probably 💀

@cjd
Realistically, I see the best play of for Europe is to have a crisis, for instance, French bonds go beserk so they decide, along with the Italians, to get out of the EU - this mean they go bakc to their old currencies and they tell all their creditors to go fuck themselves.

With this new development, several countries go to Russia and China to make trade deals with them as they also want to get out of the EU, applying to BRICS without the danger of a NATO intervention in their country.

Really? VPNs? That's the great boogeyman now?
I make a point of being a TOR node with my old computers whoich I use as personal servers.

I wonder how long it will take for those two lesbos to strangle those kids.

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