Libertarianism only serves the hedonistic selfish interests of the individual 😏
@RichardKuklinskisIcyGlare @freepatriot @d9dba0e072bdb353dfb0020de159126af47e69e133ea91bbd48e8bede37320e2
> the hedonistic selfish interests of the individual
The hedonistic selfish interests of the individual to have their rights determined on the basis of being human without any other distinction, and to be entitled to the products of their own labour without being subjected to a euphemised extortion racket masquerading as philanthropy.
> the hedonistic selfish interests of the individual
The hedonistic selfish interests of the individual to have their rights determined on the basis of being human without any other distinction, and to be entitled to the products of their own labour without being subjected to a euphemised extortion racket masquerading as philanthropy.
Libertarianism only works in a homogeneous nation but mostly in ones own home 😏 libertarianism is a decadent luxury during a genocide
@RichardKuklinskisIcyGlare @freepatriot @d9dba0e072bdb353dfb0020de159126af47e69e133ea91bbd48e8bede37320e2
I have no idea what genocide has to do with any of it, but honestly I don't think you really understand the underlying principals of libertarianism if that's your opinion. Unlike what passes for mainstream politics, it actually has philosophical roots which make sense and are deeply grounded in human rights.
I have no idea what genocide has to do with any of it, but honestly I don't think you really understand the underlying principals of libertarianism if that's your opinion. Unlike what passes for mainstream politics, it actually has philosophical roots which make sense and are deeply grounded in human rights.
Libertarianism is for people who fail to realize we've been invaded by a foreign horde and won't do the needful and expel the fuckers. Once the browns and jews are gone, White people can talk esoteric political systems.
@Aethelbald @freepatriot @d9dba0e072bdb353dfb0020de159126af47e69e133ea91bbd48e8bede37320e2 @RichardKuklinskisIcyGlare
Libertarianism isn't necessarily 100% on board with open borders. Opinions vary vis-a-vis right vs left Libertarianism, anarchism, etc. In the same way that it's sometimes necessary to put a fence around your yard (depending on neighbourhood), the same could be said of a nation for the same reasons.
That said, you're in Europe, you'd have a point. If you're in Scandinavia, then might want to ask a Sámi about it first though. If you're in Americas and you're worried about immigration, I'd direct you to the attached image for the same reason. Once you've got a philosophically consistent opinion about the status of "white people" being here, then we can discuss the rest of the immigrants on the same basis.
Libertarianism isn't necessarily 100% on board with open borders. Opinions vary vis-a-vis right vs left Libertarianism, anarchism, etc. In the same way that it's sometimes necessary to put a fence around your yard (depending on neighbourhood), the same could be said of a nation for the same reasons.
That said, you're in Europe, you'd have a point. If you're in Scandinavia, then might want to ask a Sámi about it first though. If you're in Americas and you're worried about immigration, I'd direct you to the attached image for the same reason. Once you've got a philosophically consistent opinion about the status of "white people" being here, then we can discuss the rest of the immigrants on the same basis.
We conquered the primitive Indians and raised them up through ten thousand years of progress. Without our enlightenment, there would be a fraction of their number and they'd still be eating one another.
To refer to the Indians as anywhere close to a peer to European explorers is dishonest. You can look through all the Indian books from before our discoveries and learn from their great thinkers. Find an Indian text pre-contact and compare it with any European book.
In short, we made them humans. They owe Europeans everything. Everything.
I'm also not talking open borders. I'm talking a literal invasion that's happened within our lifetime. People who arrived at the behest of whom? Who asked for the Haitians? Nobody wants Haitians.
These people all need to be returned. Maximum authoritarianism is required for the invaders, and those who aid and abet them.
To refer to the Indians as anywhere close to a peer to European explorers is dishonest. You can look through all the Indian books from before our discoveries and learn from their great thinkers. Find an Indian text pre-contact and compare it with any European book.
In short, we made them humans. They owe Europeans everything. Everything.
I'm also not talking open borders. I'm talking a literal invasion that's happened within our lifetime. People who arrived at the behest of whom? Who asked for the Haitians? Nobody wants Haitians.
These people all need to be returned. Maximum authoritarianism is required for the invaders, and those who aid and abet them.
If you made it possible for them to be here in any capacity, you should be hung for treason.
The banker, the landlord, the employers all of them.
@Aethelbald @freepatriot @d9dba0e072bdb353dfb0020de159126af47e69e133ea91bbd48e8bede37320e2 @RichardKuklinskisIcyGlare
I can see this isn't going to be resolved through civil discussion. If you were my neighbour, I'd be happy to mount your head on a pike as a decoration.
I can see this isn't going to be resolved through civil discussion. If you were my neighbour, I'd be happy to mount your head on a pike as a decoration.
we conquered the red man, now the jew is using the brown men to conquer us. libertarianism is suicidal under the circumstances.
@AmonMaritza @toiletpaper @freepatriot @d9dba0e072bdb353dfb0020de159126af47e69e133ea91bbd48e8bede37320e2 @Aethelbald @RichardKuklinskisIcyGlare You can’t expect to curb personal greed without love of family and by extension race.
@GenesRus @freepatriot @d9dba0e072bdb353dfb0020de159126af47e69e133ea91bbd48e8bede37320e2 @Aethelbald @AmonMaritza @RichardKuklinskisIcyGlare
Love of family (provided it's reciprocal), sure. That's no panacea against greed. Just look at the typical aftermath of any funeral, with family falling out over dividing the spoils of inheritance. Love of race? Lol. Please... Just because someone shares the same skin colour doesn't mean they've earned my affection. If they have compatible cultural attitudes, then I'm happy to respect them whomever they are. But if they behave badly, their skin colour sure as well won't help them dodge the $0.25 cents of lead they have coming their way.
Love of family (provided it's reciprocal), sure. That's no panacea against greed. Just look at the typical aftermath of any funeral, with family falling out over dividing the spoils of inheritance. Love of race? Lol. Please... Just because someone shares the same skin colour doesn't mean they've earned my affection. If they have compatible cultural attitudes, then I'm happy to respect them whomever they are. But if they behave badly, their skin colour sure as well won't help them dodge the $0.25 cents of lead they have coming their way.
I understand libertarianism because I used to be one 😏 I don't think libertarianism is going to be of any help at the moment. It's utopian due to the extenuating circumstances
Whites are being genocided in the west
@d9dba0e072bdb353dfb0020de159126af47e69e133ea91bbd48e8bede37320e2 @freepatriot @RichardKuklinskisIcyGlare
I know the culture is under threat due to the mass import of violent Abrahamites who've been genocided by the West for many decades or even centuries. But I don't know of any instance of "whites" being loaded into box cars or corralled into ovens. If anything in the places where there are mass graves with "white people" in them, it's been instigated by NATO and other "white people".
That said, even as an anarchist/libertarian, I'd oppose the immigration. Not on the basis of race, but on the basis that their cultural ethos is incompatible with our own. Most of them are so sick of the violence we've been doing to them for so long, they'd just as soon see us all dead. Not to mention who will give them a job when they can't speak the language? So they're stuck on the dole or resorting to crime. Can't say I blame them, but still wouldn't want them as neighbours.
Fact is, none of that would be the case were it not for the government (which is just a euphemism for an extortion racket). So the complaint you're making is as good an argument for libertarianism as it is one against it. Only difference is, libertarians aren't prepared to repeat the same actions (advocating government intervention) and expecting a different result.
I know the culture is under threat due to the mass import of violent Abrahamites who've been genocided by the West for many decades or even centuries. But I don't know of any instance of "whites" being loaded into box cars or corralled into ovens. If anything in the places where there are mass graves with "white people" in them, it's been instigated by NATO and other "white people".
That said, even as an anarchist/libertarian, I'd oppose the immigration. Not on the basis of race, but on the basis that their cultural ethos is incompatible with our own. Most of them are so sick of the violence we've been doing to them for so long, they'd just as soon see us all dead. Not to mention who will give them a job when they can't speak the language? So they're stuck on the dole or resorting to crime. Can't say I blame them, but still wouldn't want them as neighbours.
Fact is, none of that would be the case were it not for the government (which is just a euphemism for an extortion racket). So the complaint you're making is as good an argument for libertarianism as it is one against it. Only difference is, libertarians aren't prepared to repeat the same actions (advocating government intervention) and expecting a different result.
@toiletpaper @freepatriot @d9dba0e072bdb353dfb0020de159126af47e69e133ea91bbd48e8bede37320e2 @RichardKuklinskisIcyGlare
The first paragraph of your effortpost is retarded and a lot of words to write "I don't blame them because of the bullshit narratives I've ingested."
@freemayonnaise @toiletpaper @freepatriot @d9dba0e072bdb353dfb0020de159126af47e69e133ea91bbd48e8bede37320e2 @RichardKuklinskisIcyGlare Maybe when we go full on Ethnostate, those libertarians could be allowed a secluded corner to do their thing. Properly monitored so they don’t cause any harm to decent White society.
Libertarians also respect the hedonistic selfish interests of other individuals. That's the whole point actually, respecting other people's rights.
Cool.
So that hedonism creates a group of Jews that kidnap, rape, and mutilate children.
You’re cool with that as a libertarian?
So that hedonism creates a group of Jews that kidnap, rape, and mutilate children.
You’re cool with that as a libertarian?
Those Jews aren't Libertarian or they would be respecting the rights of those children. Kidnapping, rape, and mutilation are not in the hedonistic selfish interests of those children.
You claim that Libertarianism creates such a group of Jews. Do you expect other people to agree with you on that? It seems like you are skipping several steps here. You aren't just trying to make yourself mad, right?
You claim that Libertarianism creates such a group of Jews. Do you expect other people to agree with you on that? It seems like you are skipping several steps here. You aren't just trying to make yourself mad, right?
@a87b402ac081c8849b9d5bd4e39f2287f25709d3e3f79e784af1e8b38fefbdf1 @freepatriot @d9dba0e072bdb353dfb0020de159126af47e69e133ea91bbd48e8bede37320e2 @RichardKuklinskisIcyGlare
You can't talk sense with people who are determined to be ignorant retards. No matter how reasonable your explanation they're just gonna take a shit on it and then pound their chests like they won the debate.
You can't talk sense with people who are determined to be ignorant retards. No matter how reasonable your explanation they're just gonna take a shit on it and then pound their chests like they won the debate.
Pah, one can have a productive argument with any person who disagrees and wants to respond.
I'm not so insecure in my beliefs that I need anyone to change their mind or "admit they lost." Asking questions can be just as satisfying as a good rant. Er, "explanation."
I'm not so insecure in my beliefs that I need anyone to change their mind or "admit they lost." Asking questions can be just as satisfying as a good rant. Er, "explanation."
@a87b402ac081c8849b9d5bd4e39f2287f25709d3e3f79e784af1e8b38fefbdf1 @freepatriot @d9dba0e072bdb353dfb0020de159126af47e69e133ea91bbd48e8bede37320e2 @RichardKuklinskisIcyGlare
> Pah, one can have a productive argument with any person who disagrees and wants to respond.
You must be new. There's a ubiquitous personality on fedi (which you can pretty much cut/paste as though they were poorly constructed AI bots) that just goes into random threads, calls everyone some racial slur (eg. nigger, street shitter, (((whatever))), etc), lobs some ad hominems or other personal attacks, often addressed to their fellow fuckwits instead of the person being spoken of, and then declares it a win without ever even addressing the argument or attempting to understand there's nuance beyond their own existing halfwit bigotry. Their culture is to move around in gangs to show up in a thread so they can bukkake all over the discussion as they wank each other off to the sounds of their own self congratulatory hurr durr's. Hence the term "Don't feed the trolls."
You can try to talk sense with these types of people, but you'll just end up wasting your time as they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
> Pah, one can have a productive argument with any person who disagrees and wants to respond.
You must be new. There's a ubiquitous personality on fedi (which you can pretty much cut/paste as though they were poorly constructed AI bots) that just goes into random threads, calls everyone some racial slur (eg. nigger, street shitter, (((whatever))), etc), lobs some ad hominems or other personal attacks, often addressed to their fellow fuckwits instead of the person being spoken of, and then declares it a win without ever even addressing the argument or attempting to understand there's nuance beyond their own existing halfwit bigotry. Their culture is to move around in gangs to show up in a thread so they can bukkake all over the discussion as they wank each other off to the sounds of their own self congratulatory hurr durr's. Hence the term "Don't feed the trolls."
You can try to talk sense with these types of people, but you'll just end up wasting your time as they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Excuse yourself, @d9dba0e0 is a fine resident of our Nostr utopia in progress, ActivityPub users such as yourself have to content yourself with getting our posts over the bridge.
I've been around this culture plenty. Funnyjunk.com is not too dissimilar by my judgement, and I was arguing with people there for years. I have been called plenty of meaningless slurs, but I've also been called more personal and well thought out slurs too.
I have plenty of experience arguing on that level. I could probably translate back and forth between any philosophical argument and its equivalent crude personal insult.
Also she(?) is not trolling! Trolling involves making ironic posts in an attempt to measure people's reactions. That's very different from making abrasive posts and generally provoking people. Or even just good old posting controversial thoughts and beliefs, which is what I suspect is going on here.
I've been around this culture plenty. Funnyjunk.com is not too dissimilar by my judgement, and I was arguing with people there for years. I have been called plenty of meaningless slurs, but I've also been called more personal and well thought out slurs too.
I have plenty of experience arguing on that level. I could probably translate back and forth between any philosophical argument and its equivalent crude personal insult.
Also she(?) is not trolling! Trolling involves making ironic posts in an attempt to measure people's reactions. That's very different from making abrasive posts and generally provoking people. Or even just good old posting controversial thoughts and beliefs, which is what I suspect is going on here.
That guy calls himself a libertarian and then gets insulted at free speech.
Shit man, I call myself a Libertarian and I think all drugs are evil. Just because you think someone should be allowed to do something doesn't mean you believe that it's good if they actually do it. It's perfectly consistent to think people should be allowed to say whatever they want, and that they should also be ignored the moment they do so.
This is way too difficult for most people to understand. Somehow
Not really. Most of the time it's just irrelevant. Most of the time Libertarianism isn't relevant. Libertarianism can't make you a good and responsible human being. All it can do is prevent you from being evil. Plenty of Libertarians are ethically neutral pathetic moochers. A Libertarian philosophy isn't enough to explain those losers.
Because you have zero reasonable explanations.
@d9dba0e072bdb353dfb0020de159126af47e69e133ea91bbd48e8bede37320e2 @freepatriot @a87b402ac081c8849b9d5bd4e39f2287f25709d3e3f79e784af1e8b38fefbdf1 @RichardKuklinskisIcyGlare
> Because you have zero reasonable explanations.
Sorry I couldn't make it more monosyllabic for you to understand.
> Because you have zero reasonable explanations.
Sorry I couldn't make it more monosyllabic for you to understand.
Lol.
Even the other guy is telling you you’re retarded.
Even the other guy is telling you you’re retarded.
yall seen my nipples 
What the fuck are you talking about?
Not everyone will be a libertarian. Particularly when they find out how easy you are to abuse.
I didn’t claim libertarianism created it, the hedonism did.
Not everyone will be a libertarian. Particularly when they find out how easy you are to abuse.
I didn’t claim libertarianism created it, the hedonism did.
Oh, I'm sorry. So what does Libertarianism have to do with this then? As a self-identified Libertarian, do you believe that I respect the kind of hedonism that involves violating others' rights?
So, they’re abusing and mutilating little kids.
What do you do about it?
What do you do about it?
Any reply?
What do you do about it?
What do you do about it?
Sorry, I was at a Christmas party. Also, I like to take time to think of good responses. No guaruntees.
The minimum required to stop them and the maximum that their victims permit me to do.
If I depend on a victim's help in order to catch the perpetrator and if I use that to go beyond what the victim permits, then I would just be stealing the victims right to retribution for myself, and I would be just another person violating some kid's right.
And if I take more action against the perpetrator then what is necessary in order to prevent them from abusing more children, then I'd just be uniquely dependent on the continued existence of child abusers when furthering my goals.
As a Libertarian, the way I see it is that respecting the rights of everyone involved is absolutely essential for figuring out what kind of responses are appropriate, and what kinds of responses would make me into just another sick human being.
What about you? If a misguided child is being abused, would you ever look for ways to exploit and manipulate that child if it might let you get at the abuser?
And do you think that the possibility of torturing or obtaining retribution against abusers creates a kind of goodness that wouldn't exist in a world without abuse?
If I depend on a victim's help in order to catch the perpetrator and if I use that to go beyond what the victim permits, then I would just be stealing the victims right to retribution for myself, and I would be just another person violating some kid's right.
And if I take more action against the perpetrator then what is necessary in order to prevent them from abusing more children, then I'd just be uniquely dependent on the continued existence of child abusers when furthering my goals.
As a Libertarian, the way I see it is that respecting the rights of everyone involved is absolutely essential for figuring out what kind of responses are appropriate, and what kinds of responses would make me into just another sick human being.
What about you? If a misguided child is being abused, would you ever look for ways to exploit and manipulate that child if it might let you get at the abuser?
And do you think that the possibility of torturing or obtaining retribution against abusers creates a kind of goodness that wouldn't exist in a world without abuse?
"Muh Jews !!"
Stop with that nonsense. There are good Jews and bad ones like any group
Stop with that nonsense. There are good Jews and bad ones like any group
We’re talking about an example asshole.
Also, if there are “good Jews” where are they.
Do they outnumber the genocidal maniacs in Israel now?
Are they calling for the heads of the Jews in Guatemala that were just caught trafficking children?
Also, if there are “good Jews” where are they.
Do they outnumber the genocidal maniacs in Israel now?
Are they calling for the heads of the Jews in Guatemala that were just caught trafficking children?
And...? What's the correlation between being a Jew and commiting these acts ? Nope, none! These "Jews" that appear in the media don't even consider themselves strictly Jews
It appears to be 100% correlation of either supporting or worse committing these acts.
You apparently are unable to provide any examples of “good Jews.”
You apparently are unable to provide any examples of “good Jews.”
The only good jew is a dead jew
>There are good Jews
Good jews do exist. Here, I found a photo of a whole group of them!
Good jews do exist. Here, I found a photo of a whole group of them!
Ah! Proof of the Holocaust! Ah!
Hitler's cock-suckers like you who deny the Holocaust are completely illiterate and ignorant about history! Read this, go back to the real world and clean the führer jizz from your mouth 👇
https://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2012/10/index-of-published-evidence-on.html
https://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2012/10/index-of-published-evidence-on.html
You're a idiot glorifying mass murder nazi regime. Go suck Hitler's dick in another place, fag
Being "not cool" with something is different than starting a war about it
Got it.
So you just let the Jews in Guatemala rape and mutilate children as a libertarian?
So you just let the Jews in Guatemala rape and mutilate children as a libertarian?
That's is a good thing, because the smallest minority in the world is the individual
Their ideas make little sense in reality.