@dictatordave @freepatriot @Wtdrisco @Escoffier
I agree, a lot of communists and socialists seem to be driven by envy and spite, and not out of any higher moral feelings.
My favourite example of this goes like this:
Socialist: Taxes are so great, we help everyone!
Me: Ok, but there's nothing stopping you from paying taxes if you like, and me, as a libertarian, to not pay taxes. We would both be happy. You helping people, and me, helping people through my business and the services I