I have a patriotism test that can apply for all countries:

The test: If an enemy power declared war on the country you reside in, but stated that they would spare anyone who renounces/denies citizenship of that country, would you stand and fight, or would you forfeit your right to citizenship?

For this test, you have a 1/4 chance of dying and a 1/2 chance that your country will lose the war regardless of your efforts. Do you love the country you live in enough?

I am willing to bet the vast majority of 1st, 2nd, and likely even 3rd generation immigrants would not qualify as patriots under this standard. And I say fair enough, I don't blame them.

But it should make everyone think about who is coming to their countries to live there and whether or not they are coming for the proper reasons. Having a higher standard of living for yourself is not enough of a reason to justify immigration from many countries.

I can also expect that many people living in their own countries with ancestors living there for generations might take the deal of renouncing their citizenship as well. This is because many people (rightly) do not have a sense of patriotism for a country that no longer reflects their values and principles. Many countries are now more or less economic zones with an ever increasing list of laws that make life worse and are contradictory to their own values.

America, I am looking at you here.

I see mass immigration as a strong factor that weakens the sense of patriotism for the people who are the traditional heritage citizens of that country. Just what is the point of being a patriot and loving your country if entry for many foreign people is allowed, many of which are only there for economic reasons and do not share or worse, oppose your values. What is the point of your country if it is just a place to make money?

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I think a lesson of history in the future is that patriotism is a good indicator of whether or not your country will last. If people do not love their country, why would they fight for it? Countries that still have patriotism are far more likely to persist than those without. I see the destruction of patriotism as a major mistep by the Cathedral, as they have no means to sustain themselves if the citizens are apathetic about maintaining their own country.

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@houseoftolstoy So far especially in west. There was no poin in my 27 years I would say the country did good thing for me.

Most things come from individuals that wanted to make life better for all.

Government is parasite that just take and give nothing back. Only if you are weak or broke retard you get some free cash from government.

If you are average blue collar you get fucked by government via taxes, insurances and banks. Not mentioning the law allow companies to fuck you over too.

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