@Shadowman311 "She may not be a virgin" is one thing (still not preferable), but insisting that a woman being a single mom or a cheater is simply "you won't always get what you want" shows why many men are checking out of the dating market. It is tragic, as there are many men who do want a wife and kids, but the available choices are often a ticking timebomb of bad consequences and we have witnessed far too many divorces from other men for marriage to be a good sell for young men.