These people are fucking weird.
I mean, we have so much evidence that proves the Holocaust happened. It's one of the most well-documented genocides in history! There are countless records, photographs, and testimonies that provide a detailed account of what took place.
Let me give you an example. During 1941-42, around a million Jews in the Eastern Front were brutally shot and buried in massive pits. The Einsatzgruppen, these mobile killing units, were responsible for coordinating these horrific massacres. And you know what? They actually wrote detailed reports about their actions. Can you imagine that? They kept track of the death tolls, even categorizing them by men, women, and children.
These reports weren't just kept secret either. They were sent to high-ranking officials in Berlin, as well as army, police, and SS officers. They were even shared with diplomats and prominent industrialists. That kind of widespread distribution shows that the perpetrators didn't feel any shame or guilt for what they were doing. If these killings weren't part of Berlin's policy, why would they bother sending out these reports to so many people?
The lengths Holocaust deniers will go is extraordinary, to put it mildly.
They actually argue that all the evidence we have, like the reports and documents I mentioned earlier, were forged after World War II by people working for the global Jewish community.
According to these deniers, there was a whole network of forgers who meticulously created these documents. They even went as far as using typewriters that perfectly matched the ones used by the German units that supposedly wrote the documents. And get this: these forgers supposedly planted thousands of these impeccable forgeries in different archives all across Europe, making sure they were placed in the exact right files and sequence.
But here's the thing. This scenario is not only incredibly improbable, but it also fails to explain one crucial point. If these forgers were so talented and determined, why couldn't they produce the one piece of paper that deniers demand as 'proof' of the genocide—the infamous order from Hitler authorizing the destruction of the Jews? You would think that if these forgers were so capable, they would have come up with that piece of evidence, right?
"Historians, including Ian Kershaw, Raul Hilberg, and Martin Broszat, indicate that no document exists showing that Hitler ordered the Holocaust."
Wiki
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence_and_documentation_for_the_Holocaust
William A Ferguson said, "They actually wrote detailed reports about their actions. Can you imagine that? They kept track of the death tolls, even categorizing them by men, women, and children."
These reports weren't just kept secret either. They were sent to high-ranking officials in Berlin
I am not saying whether or not massive amounts of evidence was forged
The public would believe them without any evidence so they did not need to forge any evidence
No evidence is required at all to get the public to believe something
Merely the claim has to be made in history books and other media outlets labeled as non fiction that people found whatever sort of evidence is required and more than 90% of the population will believe
And I am talking about all historical claims
Misha Defonseca (born Monique de Wael) is a Belgian-born impostor and the author of a fraudulent Holocaust memoir titled Misha: A Mémoire of the Holocaust Years, first published in 1997 and at that time professed to be a true memoir.
My point is people can and do lie about events related to the holocaust and people should have freedom of speech to have the opportunity to investigate whether or not such people are lying
Claiming certain people could be lying and should be investigated to see if they are lying can have someone potentially sent to jail in Germany
The narrative has been unchallengeable for too long for anyone to know what really happened
It could not and still can not be objectively evaluated
If people were exterminated based on their ancestry that was bad and I would condemn such a holocaust as unethical
I am opposed to hating someone on the basis of their ancestry
Are you willing to condemn the hateful writings that are claimed to be Jewish scriptures which promote hating people based on their ancestry
As either
1 Scriptures not to be followed
Or
2 Not really Jewish scriptures
https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/israel-and-anti-gentile-traditions/
Israel and Anti-Gentile Traditions
My Jewish Learning
"Herman A. Rosenblat (c. 1929 – February 5, 2015) was a Polish-born American author, known for writing a fictitious Holocaust memoir titled Angel at the Fence,[1] purporting to tell the true story"
"it turned out that many elements of his memoir were fabricated and some were contrary to verifiable historical facts. Rosenblat later admitted to lying"
Historian Joachim Neander states that the rumors which allege that the Nazis produced soap from the bodies of Jews who they murdered in their concentration camps, long-since thoroughly debunked, are still widely believed
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soap_made_from_human_corpses
In 2019 the Anthropodermic Book Project performed a peptide mass fingerprinting test on an alleged Nazi-era human skin lampshade stored in a small Holocaust museum in the United States; the testing results showed the lampshade was made from plant cellulose
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lampshades_made_from_human_skin
@william @shortstories @nike
You know what the "fucking" point is, lol. Putting that aside, I personally used to think that people who denied the holocaust were just nazis/racist/etc, but after what happened in Gaza, I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. Maybe you should too?
@william @shortstories @nike Thank you for clarifying your islamophobia and support of genocide in Gaza. I wasn't sure were you stood.
Not a fucking word out of you. There are wars going on everywhere and suddenly when it involves Jews, you're "woke".
Smells like antisemitism to me.
@william @shortstories @nike
And thus, in the middle of a conversation about jews and genocide, you bring out other wars like in Syria and what not. Are you trying to imply that jews are behind those wars or something? Why do you hate jews so much? Lol
If this is genocide, Israel is doing it wrong.
And you're a stupid motherfucker still.
@RaHoWaJoe @william @doggel @nike
Maimonides’ assertion that whereas one who murders a Jew is subject to the death penalty, one who murders a non-Jew is not (Mishneh Torah, Laws of Murder 2:11). According to another leading commentator, indirectly causing the death of a non-Jew is no sin at all (Rabbi Yoel Sirkis, Bayit Hadash, commentary on Bet Yosef, Yoreh Deah 158
https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/israel-and-anti-gentile-traditions/
Do you deny that these things were written by Jews and or proclaim that they should not be practiced?
@RaHoWaJoe @william @doggel @nike
Maimonides writes: "As for Gentiles with whom we are not at war…their death must not be caused, but it is forbidden to save them if they are at the point of death; if, for example, one of them is seen falling into the sea, he should not be rescued...
(Mishneh Torah, Laws of Murder 4:11)
https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/israel-and-anti-gentile-traditions/
Do you deny that these things were written by Jews & or proclaim that they should not be practiced?
@RaHoWaJoe @william @doggel @nike
Maimonides’ statement that, "their [the Turks and the blacks] nature is like the nature of mute animals, and according to my opinion they are not on the level of human beings" (Guide For the Perplexed, Book III, Chapter 51)
https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/israel-and-anti-gentile-traditions/
Do you deny that this was written by the Jew Maimonides & or proclaim that this teaching by Maimonides that turks & blacks are not on the level of human beings should not be believed?
Anila Jahangiri
Chaplain at One True Deen
Hamas IS NOT Palestine.
Israel created Hamas.
Hamas does activities conducive to Israel’s long-term objectives to STEAL all occupied territories.
Hamas summarily kills Palestinians without due cause process all the time.
Israel is cleansing Gaza to occupy Gaza.
This was a well-planned move.
Please call your Lawmakers to STOP FUNDING ISRAEL. Your tax dollars are used for occupation/stealing land.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7grSsuFSS0
According to The Interceptor, ” Brig. Gen. Yitzhak Segev, who was the Israeli military governor in Gaza in the early 1980s. Segev later told a New York Times reporter that he had helped finance the Palestinian Islamist movement as a “counterweight” to the secularists and leftists of the Palestine Liberation Organization and the Fatah party, led by Yasser Arafat (who himself referred to Hamas as “a creature of Israel.”).”
Was the bear & eagle debunked by authority figures or is it officially true?
Am I allowed to disbelieve in the bear & eagle as long as I believe in the gas chambers & the 6 million if I want to avoid going to jail?
Or is belief in the bear & eagle mandatory to avoid jail?
https://web.archive.org/web/20121015013654/http://www.nytimes.com/1988/11/10/world/time-too-painful-to-remember.html?pagewanted=2&src=pm
''In the camp there was a cage with a bear and an eagle,'' he said. ''Every day, they would throw a Jew in there. The bear would tear him apart and the eagle would pick at his bones.''
