Why can't we just give life sentences for creating fraudulent businesses at taxpayer expense instead of just deporting them
It can be equal that way
Foreigner or not foreigner if your business fraud is too harmful to the public then you get a life sentence
I feel like deporting them is just releasing them so that they can sneak back in and commit more crimes, it is not a strong enough motivation not to commit crimes nor a strong enough mechanism to prevent future crimes
@shortstories doesn't a life sentence suggest someone is going to be paying for it? if so, isn't that causing even more harm?
The cost to imprison a fraudster for life is less thaj the cost of the fraud they will commit if they are not imprisoned
You can not trust the government to make correct decisions about who is guilty 100% of the time so I am opposed to the death penalty because it can not be reversed if a mistake is made where as someone can be released from prison if a mistake is found as to someone's guilt with a lifetime sentence
@shortstories maybe an argument for forced labor? get some kind of return...
What if the cost of forced labor plus prison is greater than the cost of prison alone
And the value of the forced labor is less than the additional cost of forcing them to do labor
It is cheaper to just give people disability money than to tax people to hire disabled people to work and do such a bad job at working that the company would make more money paying them not to show up to work
A lot of the scammers you put in prison might appear disabled, mentally unhinged insane or resistant to productive work to such a degree that you will lose more trying bto force them ro work than any benefits you get out of it
I have seen crazy disabled people at workplaces cause so many problems that company productivity would increase if they paid them to never show up to work the same amount per day as they paid them to show up to work
@shortstories in your comparison, does this mean you worked in prison? I have not, so I do not know the environment...
there is reputed to be a form of punishment within an institution of punishment (prison) called solitary confinement. I have not experienced it, but it is my understanding that the treatment has a rather heavy impact on the subject.
if a "crazy disabled person" were to cause problems, a resulting stay in solitary may reduce the times that person causes problems? incentives.
@shortstories I think you are pointing out that we need to be more specific, the jump to disabled people was unexpected... some sort of causal link I was unaware of?
maybe this should start with definitions :)