The latest Evaluating Gnosticism episode is now up!

The Yaldabaoth Pill:
P1. If gnosticism is correct, then the demiurge is in all likelihood the hero of their belief system.
P2. If the demiurge is the hero of the gnostic belief system, then he is de facto more worthy of worship than the distant, uncaring aeons.
P3. Gnostics believe that Christians worship the demiurge.

∴ Though gnosticism is false, even if it were true then Christians do best to not change their beliefs or practices.

Let's get into a bit more of this argument here as we review more Sethian literature:
https://soundcloud.com/verylutheran/evaluating-gnostic...

Actually it all makes sense if you think of the demiurge as being equivalent with the Jews

@Verfassungsschmutz To the contrary, a large number of gnostics *were* jewish, and that remains the case to this day.

Yeah because they aren't just gonna let you escape their mind control matrix without a fight, are they. They killed Jesus for this crime and they will do it again.

The Vatican is full of Jews and Judaizers as well, does this prove that Christianity is a false religion?

@Verfassungsschmutz Wait lmao did you not look at my username? Homie do really believe I think the Vatican is a properly Christian organization?

Also, what I'm saying is, there were jews and Gentiles *writing* texts that are found in the nag hammadi library. If you think of gnosticism as some anti-jewish movement, you're sorely mistaken.

@SuperLutheran @Verfassungsschmutz I just started reading the gnostic gospels,From my understanding The Monad is God of all,Our Holy spirit is part of the Monad the spark,but we have forgotten and its trapped in the flesh time dimension by the Dimurge(devil) and his offspring the Arkons (serpents seed)are the agents of control,instead of looking outside to a pope or a church for salvation,one has access to the Monad inside ones self thru faith like Jesus did

@Scubbie @Verfassungsschmutz The vast majority of gnostic texts teach that you have to become a hyper ascetic and do endless fasting+navel gazing contemplative prayer to reach gnosis. Only one in ten gnostic writers held to a sort of "divine spark" theology.
Anyone telling you it's just about knowing some gnosticky sounding reddit doctrines is BSing you as to what the original gnostics taught.

@Scubbie @Verfassungsschmutz Also Valentinian gnosticism required you experience every activity man can experience, so you'd probably have to be sodomized and drink paint at some point if Valentinus was right.

I mean, that's an interesting concept, do you believe that Christ suffered every pain known to man when he died for your sins?

@Verfassungsschmutz @SuperLutheran So the Gnostics was not a religion,the gnosis is a muscle one can exercise to not be a normie following the cannon of a particular doctrine whether Catholic, or Protestant,obeying religious ceremonies is not required because these would be infiltrated by the Arkons thru time to control the deception.So the only truth can be sought from within the spirit,Every religion thinks there version is the one true version this is ego

@Scubbie @Verfassungsschmutz What you're describing isn't gnosticism though. In fact they were staunch institutionalists that sought to control the normal Christian church from their monastic enclaves, and most nag hammadi documents demand that you believe what they wrote or else you aren't among their elect.
They wrote stuff down, I've been doing audio commentary on all of it for years now.

@SuperLutheran @Verfassungsschmutz The history of the Gnostics was they tried to get them added to the Bible in Catholicism but 1 vote rejected them because teachings would take power away from the Papacy declared heresy by Irenaeus he was made a saint in the Catholic Church, Anglican Church, Lutheran Churches, the Eastern Orthodox Church, the Oriental Orthodox Churches, and the Assyrian Church of the East.and a Doctor of the Church in the Catholic Church by Pope Francis in 2022.