@Tfmonkey What do you think of military gums? It says it boosts cognitive performance….

@Indignation I'm never heard of "military gums". Are they just caffeine gum, or do they have vitamins and shit in them?

@Indignation They gave up energy drinks called Rip It. They were like short little cans. They never gave up gum.

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@Indignation @Tfmonkey

There are a lot of articles claiming coffee or caffeine boost cognitive performance if you do an online search for caffeine and cognitive performance

Why would getting caffeine from chewing gum but not swallowing it boosts performance more than from eating or drinking food with caffeine in it? If not what is so special about the gum?

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@Indignation @Tfmonkey

What if cognitive performance only increases for a short time period while you are under the influence of caffeine and drops below where you started due to fatigue when the caffeine is no longer influencing you such that on average over a longer time period your cognitive performance is the same or worse even though it is better in a immediate time frame

@Indignation @Tfmonkey

I would not trust any claim based on statistical significance tests esoecially without a physical mechanism mentioned

Cognition and Brain Activation in Response to Various Doses of Caffeine: A Near-Infrared Spectroscopy Study

frontiersin.org/journals/psych

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@Indignation @Tfmonkey

How was this conducted did people choose whether or not they use the gum or were they assigned to use or not use the gum?

A problem with smoking causing depression is unless you force people to smoke or not smoke, you can not know if smoking makes you depressed or if depressed people choose to smoke

Also do they test people immediately after using caffeine one time or after using caffeine every day for a period of multiple days?

How much time after use do they test?

@shortstories @Indignation @Tfmonkey >you can not know if smoking makes you depressed or if depressed people choose to smoke
They have a good idea that it's the latter based upon chemicals found in burning tobacco and the tendency of mentally ill to chain-smoke. I've seen a literal schizo picking up cigarette butts from an ash trash or bar patio to relight.

@BowsacNoodle @Indignation @Tfmonkey

But that does not disprove that both smoking increases likelihood of depression and also depression or mental illness increases likelihood of smoking

My point is not about smoking that is just an example

My point is correlation shown in statistical signifucance tests does not support causation unless people are assigned to do an activity instead of looking at who chose to do an activity before the data was collected

@shortstories @Indignation @Tfmonkey it doesn't prove it, but it's not useless as evidence. Just reminding you to not treat that as a thought terminating statement is all.

@shortstories @Indignation @Tfmonkey - Years ago, I was studying Japanese using audiobooks as a trucker. Unrelated to that, I was consuming high-dose caffeine pills to stay awake & to try to stay slim.

So I inadvertently ran that experiment on myself. My cognitive performance was noticeably improved (vocabulary retention, and fewer backtracking to repeat language lessons).

I couldn't speak to the precise mechanism, but that's a "fact check: true". 🫡

@YoMomz @Indignation @Tfmonkey

How Do Adderall and Meth (Methamphetamine) Differ?

Healthline

"While Adderall is similar to “meth,” they aren’t identical chemicals. Methamphetamine can be used to treat ADHD but only under careful doctor supervision."

"First, there’s meth in its illegal form: the type made and sold illegally and often misused as a recreational drug."

"On the other hand, there’s a legal form of meth that’s prescribed for ADHD treatment"

healthline.com/health/adhd/how

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