Rejecting Polygyny was an early stage of the infiltration of the Church with feminism
From a eugenics perspective, polygyny by a high-capability male is a good way to work those traits into the general population.
If you have one dude who is IQ 140, good natural eyesight, no teeth decay, vertically aligned facial features, high muscles, no cancer in his family history, etc. you should hook him up with as many 125+ IQ women of good health and character as possible.
IMHO this was done in ancient times by women who "shared" semen on fingertips.
Morality is a human fiction designed to make losers feel better. I am interested only in function, which is why I inserted the preamble.
I would suggest that people also look at psychological impacts here. Sperm sharing is less traumatic than partner swapping IMHO.
Morality outside of function is an Abrahamic conceit.
Optimal function is morality, which rewards things like chastity, ethnat, etc.
Polygyny is not necessarily swapping
It can be one ma!e with lifetime exclusive relationships with only the multiple women he is married to which would be lifetime polyfidelity commitments
Polyfidelity is different than polyamory
And I think donations are a lower risk of stds then other methods
@amerika @eastreed @shortstories Morality is originally principles that keep society alive but are unintuitive.
If men can have multiple wives, you get Africa:
Get multiple wives > not enough women for everyone > nearby men go to war to take your wives > the survivor lives in abject poverty since maintaining society requires larges amounts of work and the survivor is too busy maintaining multiple wives > have kids that will kill each other to repeat the cycle
"Morality is originally principles that keep society alive but are unintuitive"
Mostly agreed, unsure on "unintuitive" except to mean indirect or secondary.
I agree on the problem of multiple wives leading to matriarchy.
@doggel @amerika @eastreed
"If men can have multiple wives, you get Africa:
Get multiple wives > not enough women for everyone > nearby men go to war to take your wives > the survivor lives in abject poverty since maintaining society requires larges amounts of work and the survivor is too busy maintaining multiple wives > have kids that will kill each other to repeat the cycle"
1
That is not what happened on sister wives TV show
2
You can have more women born then men through sperm centrifuge
@shortstories @amerika @eastreed 1 The scale is way too small. A few men with multiple wives within a society of hundreds of millons that are still monogamous is not the same as a whole society being polygamous, it is like saying that communism totally works just because a father giving stuff for free to his wive and children haven't caused them starve to death
2 If that is true, yeah, that would work, polygyny works if there very few men and lots women
Men can not afford multiple wives unless they have a lot of wealth
It takes a lot of time to get a lot of wealth
This creates a age gap
The number of women 18 or older is smaller than the number of men 18 years + number of years to acquire wealth and older
If you believe in probability then
Additionally with modern technology you can change the probability that a child of one gender or another is born by centrifuging the sperm
& lazy men should not reproduce
@shortstories @amerika @eastreed
And that's precisely why family, church and laws encourages men and women to marry as early as possible or sometines even arranging marriages since childhood, it was to prevent that age gap and to prevent the young men to be left without young, fertile women.
If laziness was 100% genetic, blacks would be the hardest working people ever due to the extreme conditions in africa and polygyny, what you see in the US however...
Christians will argue that polygamous households usually experienced some strife in the Old Testament. This, despite that it was never treated as sinful, including when the patriarchs Abraham and Jacob took multiple spouses, centuries before the more permissive Mosaic law. Beyond that marital problems are common in every type of marriage, what did the problems stem from?
With Peninnah and Hannah (pictured with their husband Elkanah), for instance, there was jealousy and worry the husband might favor one over the other. These concerns can be resolved, on the husband’s part by acting justly and committing to loving his wives equally; Elkanah gave Hannah preferential treatment, and was being unjust. On the wives’ part, Penninah was mean to Hannah, and while it is understandable she resented the favor Elkanah showed Hannah, Hannah remained childless, and deserved some consideration for that hardship.
The parables of Jesus promote just the virtues that can make plural marriages work. For men with several wives, the story of the Lost Sheep provides a model for how a good steward can care for even a large flock under his care, and is only acting properly when he gives extra attention as needed. As models for wives, meanwhile, many of Jesus’ most famous parables, viz., the Prodigal Son, and the Workers in the Vineyard, include individuals who have been good all along, but feel aggrieved when the master gives out good things that are his to distribute, and it is clear that they will be in the wrong if they continue in their resentment.
The teaching of Jesus that divorce is ungodly, meanwhile, is misused to condemn plural marriage. The version in Mark 10 is followed by a meeting with His disciples in private, a setting where Jesus often lays out the more far-reaching implications of a teaching. However, He simply reiterates that taking another spouse, after setting the first aside, is adultery. What He says is wrong is replacing one spouse with another; He never says that having concurrent wives is wrong. It doesn’t, after all, prevent the man and wife from becoming one flesh: for while a wife can only have one man’s child at a time, her husband taking additional wives does not prevent him doing his conjugal duty with her, too.
Just so, should a wife feel threatened if she has a husband who is a good man, and is now looking to marry a second wife? As long as her husband still provides for her, she is not harmed in any respect, while on the other hand, it is mean-spirited to want to deny her man the fulfillment and joy of having additional children with another woman—or to feel spiteful that he gets to enjoy the legitimate pleasures of mating with her. There have been arguments about whether a first wife’s consent is needed to take a second—it certainly is as a practical matter in our world—but if she really wants to love her husband, and seek his good for his own sake rather than expecting to get something out of it, all considerations suggest she should welcome polygyny. #pluralmarriage #polygyny #polygamy #family #marriage #Bible #Genesis #ISamuel #IKings #Hannah #Mark #Jesus #parables #Christianity #Christian
IMG_7006.jpeg
