I should also add that that conversation in Messiah didn't really hit as hard for me back when I read it, nothing to do with politics, just the idea that after 9,000 years a dictators actions and consequences would more than fade with time wasn't that crazy of an idea. Like how Napoleon was the Hitler figure of the 1800s and is now widely considered an anti-hero at worst and a great man of history by the majority of the population.
youtu.be/fyFqWgvU-3E
Seems to fit perfectly with the hollywood narrative.
Why?
"Because they'll, uh... Liberate your planet and take you on a kickass jihad to rule the galaxy..."
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There used to be a wikipedia article called Orange Catholic that explained it but the article has been removed
I thought I archived it but it looks like the truth has been surpressed
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I can not find any of the stuff I claimed supposedly happened in this religion mocking event
But I just remember hearing or reading it when trying to figure out what a "Orange Catholic" is
Maybe it was removed from the internet or maybe I am looking in the wrong place
dune.fandom.com/wiki/Orange_Catholic_Bible
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If he hated Allegorys than Roman Catholicism was the wrong religion for him to pick
Lewis was the Christian
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_Order
The Loyal Orange Institution, commonly known as the Orange Order, is an international Protestant fraternal order based in Northern Ireland and primarily associated with Ulster Protestants. It also has lodges in England, Scotland, Wales and the Republic of Ireland, as well as in parts of the Commonwealth of Nations and the United States.[1][2][3]
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The color "orange" is especially interesting. In this context, orange typically represents the Protestant Irish. This may speak to an ancient reunion of Protestant and Catholic in the Dune universe.
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https://www.thescottsmithblog.com/2018/02/the-theology-of-dune.html
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Supposedly Frank Herbert was making fun of religious people in a conversation with a relative of his who was talking with him about someone going to a confirmation class and both of them made fun of the whole thing together and then he decided to put stuff in Dune
There was supposedly a orange religious movement in Ireland, Britain, Scottland or England in real life
And the orange Catholic Bible is named after it as part of the mockery