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But, I've engaged with this discussion as much as it made sense to.
Of course, in this Jewed out Satanic hellhole, the entire discussion of lowering the age of consent would not be had with good intent, so I wouldn't support lowering it without getting rid of the Jews. (My understanding, without looking it up, is it would not need to be lowered at all to reach 16 in many cases, both here and abroad, but I don't care to look it up.)
The whole "you're a pedophile" thing for being attracted to a sexually mature female is retarded. It could hardly be argued if more women were becoming committed wives at 14 and starting to have kids, we would not, in fact, get more children being born. The whole stigma just conveniently happens to result in fewer children being born.
The "you want to fuck kids" line is just making a cheap shot with ill intent about a discussion that deserves to be had about why "we" decided having kids in the prime of fertility was a bad idea.
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If we say it is not legal to marry until X years old then someone will say it is wrong to date or court or talk to someone at X - 1 years old
If you have to court or talk to or date someone for at least 1 year before marrying them
Then whatever marriage age you set as X results in people not marrying until X + 1 years old
The only solution is to officially legalize courting at a younger age than the official legal age of marriage
Either way, trying to implement a law like that without first making the cultural changes to bring back courtship and the associated social infrastructure to support it is literally putting the cart before the horse
The women at 16
This is like saying murder laws shouldn't exist because people still get killed
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An 18 year old man dating a 16 year old woman is usually bad
The age gap should usually be much large if the man has had enough time to develop skills & resources to support a family in our current society
The man usually should be at least 23 years old
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/08/online-dating-out-of-your-league/567083/
"A massive new study of online dating finds that everyone dates aspirationally—and that a woman’s desirability peaks 32 years before a man’s does."
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What kind of high paying job can an 18 year old man get? How much saved money would an 18 year old man have? What kind of skills at getting resources would an 18 year old man have?
Child labour laws have delayed the age at which men have working skills. Most men do not know how to farm their own food anymore. The prices of property have sky rocketed due fractional reserve lending. Property tax makes farming not affordable.
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Blue collar route to money or wealth -> Take many years learning a skill
White collar route to money -> Take many years learning a college degree
An 18 year old man simply does not qualify for these things because the starting point to learning a skill or getting a college degree is usually at 18 because most men are not fortunate enough to have parents teach them the family business blue collar skill before they are 18
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Next follow the words between qualified persons; for persons excluded by law cannot contract marriage, and if they do their marriage is invalid. Persons, for instance, within the fourth degree of kindred, a boy before his fourteenth year, and a female before her twelfth, the ages established by law, cannot contract marriage.
Catechism of the Council of Trent
http://catholicapologetics.info/thechurch/catechism/Holy7Sacraments-Matrimony.shtml
http://catholicapologetics.info/thechurch/catechism/trentc.htm
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If there are two societies that rebuild the infrastructure of society but one has a lower age of legal marriage than the other then I would suggest the one with the lower age of legal marriage will have higher birth rate and defeat the other society up to a point.
Lowering the legal age of marriage below a certain number will no longer raise the birth rate
Muslims & Jews have a lower legal age of marriage than "Christians"
The assertion that lower legal age of marriage alone is what solves fertility is self-evidently wrong, as romeo and juliet laws already allow for young marriage and yet fertility is not improved.
So why do insist on putting the cart ahead of the horse?
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Let's say in the U.S.A. and Europe White people and Christians and Atheists are not allowed to marry until 18 or older
But Muslims and Jews continue to allow marriage at 12 or even younger
The Muslims and Jews will continue to have a higher population growth rate per capita
If a population has the same average number of children at a younger average age than that population growth rate will be higher
Firstly, 18 only really exists as a barrier in America. And even then, you still have romeo and juliet laws, which do allow for marriage at a lower ages. So, off the bat, that's kind of not really the case.
>But Muslims and Jews continue to allow marriage at 12 or even younger
This is something that really only happens in orthodox jewish communities in Israel, so we're talking about a minority of a minority here. Re: muslims- a majority of muslims are Sunni, which is fairly liberal. The ones that do come to the West liberalize within a generation or two- this puts the birthrate more on par with that of the native population.
As far as the "twelve" number, I mean, ok, I guess, but understand that at 14 and below you're talking about higher and higher chances of pregnancy being a very dangerous thing for both the mother and the child. This continues the further down you go from ~16-18.
This is stuff that, if you're not considering or at least acknowledging, just makes it sound like you want to fuck 12 year olds.
Whereas if you *just* make it so girls can get married or pursued for marriage, you have everything else roughly the same except that now you just have older dudes going after younger women (which is gross and does not have a historical precedent) and you also have a scenario where you have a massive imbalance where younger men are deprived marriage and prospects for family foundation. This is not sustainable, and is very bad for a number of other reasons.
@doctorsex @transgrammaractivist @Evil_Bender @DailyStormerDigest
You can support both rebuilding infrastructure and also lowering the legal age of marriage. The educational system should be changed first before the legal age of marriage is lowered unless marriageability exams must be passed to get married. Marriageability exams in my opinion are a better method because it prevents people who have reached a certain age but are still not ready to get married from getting married.
You absolutrly can, and rebuilding that social infrastructure would just naturally lead to lower marriages. My issue is that people laser focus on the young marriage part and completely ignore the plethora of externalities, for instance, why age of consent exists, why it is at 18 in the first place, the laws that *already exist* allowing for young marriage to happen, why young marriages are less common, etc.
It is, *at best*, an issue of misplaced priorities. It is *at worst* pedophiles or other sexual deviants attempting to launder their perversions under ideology.
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So the thing is in our current society whatever age of marriage is set people are not going to get married until much older than that age
You would have to make it legal and socially acceptable for men to talk to women with the intent of marriage before the legal age of marriage
There is no legal and socially acceptable way for White Christians and White Agnostics and White Atheists to do that
This is just not true, lmao. You can *really* easily find graphs of average marriage ages in the US- you really did not have the problem of people marrying later & later until relatively recently. The biggest barriers to family formation are economic. As the economy shifted towards the service industry and as inflation gets worse, people get married and have families later.
>There is no legal and socially acceptable way for White Christians and White Agnostics and White Atheists to do that
>legal
R&J laws, parental consent
>socially acceptable
It's called, "I dated my highschool sweetheart & we got married"
This stuff really isn't hard and I'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt here but the more and more you double down on a problem that could be much more effectively solved by re-working economic incentives with "you need tp let me fuck middle schoolers" it's really hard to read it any other way
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So should people know each other less than a year and then get married?
If people can not legally talk to people below the legal age of marriage then they can not get married until later than the legal age of marriage unless they marry people that they did not spend much time talking to at all
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Some women are not mature enough to marry at 40 years old
This is primarily because of the type of society they are raised in
There are some men and women who can do Calculus at 12 where as there are other men and women who can not even multiply a one digit number by another one digit number without a Calculator at 40
When people go to pro blind faith in government public school their time is wasted and they are brainwashed