take your red pills go MGTOW, woman where always whores, feminism only glorified it, laws are in place to destroy men in divorce court, women are not worth it. as long as you dilute the issue to dumb memes like these you will never understand why men are bailing out of women and marriage.
When I was growing up many men would always give me life advice, the number one most common life advice I always get from men is Never Get Married Not Worth it.
>this is somehow women's fault
You should make like the way the retarded men who raised you (most likely) did and drink until you suffer fatal alcohol poisoning.
also, men cant be whores, they are whore makers, you will never see a woman not want to date a man because he has fucked a ton of women, NO, on the contrary they might even be turned ON and attracted to that man by that fact alone, BUT you will never see a man say that they are attracted to a whore because of the amount of dicks she has sucked and gallons of CUM she has swallowed, men and women are not equal and the qualities that they look for in each other are not the same.
Men pay thousands, sometimes millions, to fuck suger babies. Those are young women who sleep with their temporary older clients for big pay. Some of those women had hundreds of clients, the old men know this, and some still marry them.
Men don't give a shit if women is virgin or a "whore". Men will fuck anything.
Fruit, animals, and bagels will do. You think too highly of your deprived sex
@Aflowernamedyou @kj00 yes men will fuck anything but will not marry a whore and as the saying goes.
You can make a house wife in to a whore but you cant make a whore in to a house wife.
Women are very good at reading people and picking up vibes, some more than others. You're never gonna attract a partner if you think so lowly of women. No woman wants to be with a sexist douchebag, not unless they are rich.
So either start making money or change, because if you talk like this to women, it's no wonder women avoid you.
If you go the money route, you're only gonna attract a certain type of woman, and you can't complain if she takes you to the cleaners.
@Aflowernamedyou @kj00 dont need to convince you also dont need to lie to you, wish you best of luck but its not like anyone wants to marry a feminist, sad that it took 3 feminist to derrail this conversation from a real conversation to an attack on me
I love punching up. The trans community is bigger threat than you.
The world loves mocking men like you. Media loves hating men like you. Sometime it feels like they want men like you to break down mentally, snap and hurt others, so they can preach about "toxic masculinity".
I understand your feelings boy, more than you think, and I pity you for having them. I used to lurk in incel forums, you know. Mostly because I was trying to understand, and also to mock you (not gonna lie).
I never will understand how so many men, young men got to this mindset.
I wonder what hurt you so badly to think and feel like this? Women go through such horrible abuse and misogyny, and men like you, men with your mindset isolate the type of woman that you would want to be with.
I hope you think this over.
answer me this, how will feminist have a future if they dont or cant have any kids, the future belongs to those who have kids so how will feminist have a future if they dont have any kids? truth is the future is not feminist and it belongs to ppl like me who are going to have kids.
How deluded you are if you think "kids" mean you're gonna leave an impact on this world. If you think a child will make you worthwhile, your future worthwhile, I feel bad for you. I feel bad for your kid. You shouldn't weigh your life's success to just if you had offspring. That's just sad.
You should want to have kids because you love your partner. You love your partner so much that want to raise their child.
Kids are the future. It's true. But that can't be reason you have them. They are not an obligation. They should be a result of love. Most aren't though. The world is full of "happy mistakes" and accessory children.
Which in my opinion why we have so many fucked up people around.
It's gonna pain you to hear this, but most of the feminists here, and on other sites, have kids.
They are radical feminists because they have kids. They want to protect their daughters from misogyny
again, on average feminist women, dont get married, dont have kids, so how will they keep western civilization afloat? and if feminism does not keep western civilization alive then western civilization will die and so will feminism, thus proving that feminism is a civilization cancer.
when western civilization falls a new one will take over and it will definitely not support feminism.
That's very odd. I was expecting more. I was a little disappointed cause I wanted a troll fight (lol), but since your seemed open for discussion, I played along.
I peaked through your content. You're not a bad guy. Lurk in our forums more. I bet it will help you. Maybe you'll understand women better.
none of your personal attacks hurt me because none of them are true, I even tried to share some info with regards to where I am coming from but even then you wanted so bad to believe that I am some form of incel.
you completely fail at answering my question, Yes, there are feminist of all walks of life, but western civilization is collapsing, no kids, average feminist women dont have kids, so how will they keep western civilization alive?
Sir, you are delusional if you think feminists aren't having kids. Once again, lurk on Mumset. Every woman there is a feminist and a mother.
Why are you just blaming women for the fall of society. Maybe you should look in the mirror? Women would rather be childless than be with a man like you.
God your misogyny is getting annoying, but I am gonna try here. I am offering the olive branch, but your ignorance is pissing me off.
The blame lies with both sexes, fool. Lots of shallow women with impossible standards, who only want money and status, and lots of shitty misogynistic men who only want their wives to be objects, slaves, and mommies.
Women don't want to make nests with men they don't trust.
Stop blaming women for all the world's problems. I hate to burst your bubble again, but the reason women are "whores" with STDs is because liberal MEN preach about how empowering mindless sex is. Men tricked other women into preaching this lie to other women is. Men are so stupid that pay women thousands to sell themselves.
The destruction of the "pure" woman you want is because of your own sex.
Seriously all the world's problems usually come back to one sex. Sad you don't see it.
I'm not saying women are perfect, but we sure are NOT the ones fucking up world.
We don't have the power to do such a thing, dumbass
once again you refuse to answer my question
western civilization is collapsing, bc no kids, average feminist women dont have kids, how will the future be feminist if feminist women dont have kids?
I blame women bc no self respecting man should ever be expected to wife up a whore. the average modern day women has been fucked around by so many men, they call it sexual liberation. you can make a house wife in to a whore but you cant make a whore in to a house wife.
It's take two to make a child you dumbfuck.
Perhaps men should look in the mirror to why women don't want have kids anymore?
Critical thinking! Come on damnit! I know you have it in you!
I take back my friend comment. I don't like stupid people.🤣
actually studies have been done on why women dont want to have kids anymore and it has nothing to do with men, it is always the same answer, modern day woman dont want to have kids because they would have to change their life style, and become mothers.
dont believe me google it.
Did you read why they don't want kids? It usually deals with the economy instability, and lack of decent male partners.
Dude plus their is BILLION women on this planet. Why are you so pissed at the small not even 10% (probably less than that) of women who don't want kids.
men gave women the vote, yes it was a mistake and a lack of personal responsibility, women make the majority of the voting population, it is women who are the king makers of today, not men, look up statistics of how men and women vote, they are direct opposites, men vote for smaller government, women vote for bigger government and welfare.
so let me see if I get this straight, you blame voting men for the corruption in government but not women, event though they make the vast majority of voters and also vote for bigger government and welfare, but no it is all mens fault, correct? if only men had been responsible and outvoted women to reduce the size of gov and reduce spending thus reducing gov corruption bc by nature gov is corrupt.
voting not making a difference might be something that we both agree on, I believe that voting has been rigged for many years now, but that even when voting was not rigged that women make up the majority voting population and they vote overwhelmingly for big government and welfare, thus increasing the size of government, and government by nature is corrupt.
size of government and welfare started to expand dramatically only when women where given the right to vote.
Corporations runs this country. We have no influence over anything. The 1% only want you to think you do. The culture wars exist to distract us from the real problem, the fact that a few people, a tiny bit, have all the wealth and are making all the decisions.
And here is real kicker. The biggest joke. That 1%.... is all male, some identify as female though lol.
sure, I guess we could agree to that but how does that resolve the issues with marriage and low fertility rates that we talked about, is your idea to just blame low fertility rates on a bad economy created by the 1%, I wonder how the Muslim ppl did it when we where bombing their country all these years and competently destroyed their economy and to this day it has not recovered.
The poor have a higher birth rate because they need larger families to support their lives
this is why I am talking to you bc I DONT want america to be like the middle east but if you look at the direction we are going the only ppl having kids in western countries are middle eastern ppl. Islam will be the future of western civilization if things continue the way they have.
American leaders and companies have influenced the rise and fall of practically every nation in world. Sure they have bigger numbers, but they are poor people dependent on us.
But the power control is changing.
Now China is doing it same thing. Their influence is growing and growing, and that is only the reason we will be going to war soon. I think.
Power struggle.
There can't be two nations calling the shots
@Aflowernamedyou so that's the best you have, you just hope that western civilization does not end up being majority Muslim even though they are the ones who are having most of the kids in western countries, and then you turn around and call me dense and delusional.
If our country becomes that, my head would be on street.
I am already hated for feminist views. I know wouldn't last a day in such a misogynistic society. I would fight it, and die fighting against it. I am very lucky to be born in America, blessed. It's not perfect but I will try to make it safer for women and girls
I am very self aware feminist. They tell me to cover up, and troll them by walking around like this.
I would be stoned day one
You can't stop it even in places like the Middle East
lol yes because men definitely did not fight and die for your freedom in america, while the only thing women had to do to fight for their rights was bitch and cry at men to be given rights, how many women died holding a rifle while shooting down at invading forces trying to kill them and take away their way of life?
It's true men died to make America a better place, and I am not gonna diminish their great sacrifice for any reason.
But there is still problems. Women can't even change in privacy anymore. We have to share our spaces with pornsick misogynists. Male rapists are being imprisoned with vulnerable women.
There is a lot of problems. I think the problem between us is you think I am liberal feminist. I am not.
I hate liberal feminism as much as you do.
so there is no solution coming from feminist women on how to solve the low birth rates then, is that correct? if so then feminism has no future
I am not talking about forcing a woman to have a baby by force, I am talking about what future does current western civilization have if the average women does not want to settle down and have kids, what are men supposed to do? are we just going to have to go abroad and have kids with woman of other countries who still hold family values?
but that is the thing though, I dont support feminism and if I get a woman from another country she wont support feminism either and thus western civilization, the only place where women are allowed to be feminist will cease to exists. in other words feminist are destroying their own future.
I would not say I am scared, I ahve a future and I am happy with what I have and the family I will create, what I am trying to do is follow your logic to where it leads and feminist logic always leads to self destruction, it always kills its host civilization until a new one that does not support women's rights comes up from the ashes. while I do not support Islam more and more I am seeing that Islam is right about women.
also, I have not made any excuses only questions, where can a western man find a western woman who is not a whore, not past her prime and wants to have a family and settle down
If I could change one, I could help whatever poor woman he ends up with. If he ends up with one, poor girl
Foolish hope. I am sad. I really wanted to make men better understand what women go through. It's impossible isn't it.
if feminism does not have a solution to increasing birth rates of the only society that supports feminism then that by definition makes feminism a cancer upon the body western civilization, feminism is killing the only civilization that even cares to support it.
I am not talking just about liberal feminism but all forms of feminism, there is not a single form of feminism that supports increasing birth rates, all forms of feminism are a cancer on western civilization
Those are women have the same values you do. I just think you are looking in all the wrong places to find a girl like that.
I would not marry a conservative feminist, they are what we call a chameleon, they play it safe until they get a kid from you then they divorce you and live off of welfare and alimony. conservative feminists also make the majority of the born again christian girls, basically whores who think that if they dont play nice with men and what they are looking for in a women then no men will want to marry them, but it is all a lie and just temporary
Spinster is probably sick as fuck listening you misogynistic bullshit. Lord know I am tired discussing against it.
Im married to an amazing husband and we have a baby together. We're planning to have more. Many women on Spinster itself are married with children. But you blame feminism for all the world's problems? Your solution is to hold women as second class citizens and in cultures that give them a lack of rights, education, and force breed them for their degenerate husband. Instead of taking a look at your own sex. Have you ever thought "why don't women trust men enough to have children?" Shit, I'm on mom threads and the amount of perverted, lazy, worthless men I see some of these mother's dealing with is insane. No wonder educated women don't want children to be tied to a man child for the rest of their lives.
Hur de hur..."its cause dumb wahmen can vote now!" No...you use no logic. You're too set in your ways and mindset to even hear another point of view. I've had better conversations with men all over the fediverse about this shit. At least I've seen attempts at trying to see another side to all of this other than "wahmen ruin everything waaaah."
"BuT WAAAAaaaMaaaAN vOtEs NoW!"
What have unleashed on Spinster. I am done trying to debate a vegetable.