I am not talking just about liberal feminism but all forms of feminism, there is not a single form of feminism that supports increasing birth rates, all forms of feminism are a cancer on western civilization
if feminism does not have a solution to increasing birth rates of the only society that supports feminism then that by definition makes feminism a cancer upon the body western civilization, feminism is killing the only civilization that even cares to support it.
I am not talking about forcing a woman to have a baby by force, I am talking about what future does current western civilization have if the average women does not want to settle down and have kids, what are men supposed to do? are we just going to have to go abroad and have kids with woman of other countries who still hold family values?
lol yes because men definitely did not fight and die for your freedom in america, while the only thing women had to do to fight for their rights was bitch and cry at men to be given rights, how many women died holding a rifle while shooting down at invading forces trying to kill them and take away their way of life?
so there is no solution coming from feminist women on how to solve the low birth rates then, is that correct? if so then feminism has no future
@Aflowernamedyou so that's the best you have, you just hope that western civilization does not end up being majority Muslim even though they are the ones who are having most of the kids in western countries, and then you turn around and call me dense and delusional.
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then what is a man supposed to do to find a decent women who is not a whore, not passed her prime, not a single mother, and wants to settle down to have kids, because those women are like a unicorn, they really dont exists, the average modern day woman today is a whore even by the most conservative definition of the word. I dont say whore to try an insult women, I say whore because it is the correct word to describe them.
this is something that I dont really agree with you, when I graduated from university a few yrs back, I could not for the life of me, point to you a non promiscuous girl in my school, this is such a big issue that it has become a meme.
this is why I am talking to you bc I DONT want america to be like the middle east but if you look at the direction we are going the only ppl having kids in western countries are middle eastern ppl. Islam will be the future of western civilization if things continue the way they have.
@Aflowernamedyou but that is the problem though, that is what the average women / feminist of today offers a man who wants to start a family, are you saying that sexual liberation was not a good thing for women?
sure, I guess we could agree to that but how does that resolve the issues with marriage and low fertility rates that we talked about, is your idea to just blame low fertility rates on a bad economy created by the 1%, I wonder how the Muslim ppl did it when we where bombing their country all these years and competently destroyed their economy and to this day it has not recovered.
how can a man start a family with a modern day woman or feminist today if the best she can offer him is a used up pussy that was given away both freely and generously, might not be fertile anymore, will probably start menopause soon, is no longer in her prime, is now somewhere in her 30's, does not want to cook or clean, maybe already has a kid from another man and wants you to take care of him, what kind of fucked up deal is that
look at the situation from the average men's perspective, the modern day women does not want to settle down and have kids until she is kicked off the cock carousel and she has hit the wall in her 30 to 35 yrs, she is not longer in her prime fertile yrs, now she wants to settle down, get married and maybe have kids, she has had over a mile of cocks run through her by multiple men, and that is the average women that the modern day man gets to choose from to start a family with.
yep, I still remember when they where talking about how homelessness was becoming a big issue because women now make up to 1/4 of the homeless population. because the other 3/4, the male population does not matter.
voting not making a difference might be something that we both agree on, I believe that voting has been rigged for many years now, but that even when voting was not rigged that women make up the majority voting population and they vote overwhelmingly for big government and welfare, thus increasing the size of government, and government by nature is corrupt.
size of government and welfare started to expand dramatically only when women where given the right to vote.
feminism does not exist because of misogyny, I am sure that a feminist like you would say that there is no society, country, or religion in this world that is not misogynistic, yet feminism only exists in western countries.
here is an interesting fact, in Europe they did a study to find out who where the happiest women, would you be surprised that the happiest women where always those who were married and with kids, and who do you think where the unhappiest women?
so let me see if I get this straight, you blame voting men for the corruption in government but not women, event though they make the vast majority of voters and also vote for bigger government and welfare, but no it is all mens fault, correct? if only men had been responsible and outvoted women to reduce the size of gov and reduce spending thus reducing gov corruption bc by nature gov is corrupt.
I never denied that feminist dont have kids, I completely agree that some feminist do have kids but the average feminist does not, look up the statics on this, the average feminist does not get married, does not have kids. the replacement rate for the average feminist is even worse than for the modern day women. if we are lucky the average feminist has 1 child at most, if they even have a child at all, is the future not feminist?
men gave women the vote, yes it was a mistake and a lack of personal responsibility, women make the majority of the voting population, it is women who are the king makers of today, not men, look up statistics of how men and women vote, they are direct opposites, men vote for smaller government, women vote for bigger government and welfare.
countries have tried everything under the sun from giving them free money every month, to giving them food, a house, tax free for life, free healthcare, free welfare, etc all kids of incentives have been tried to try and push women to have kids, even in the times of economic stability feminist women dont have kids. from what I have seen the average modern day women, aka feminist does not want to have kids until she hits the wall and men stop ringing her phone.
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