@DoubleD I agree it's not pretty. Sometimes it's difficult to remain calm while discussing certain topics, particularly when they're personal. At the end of the day it's usually about ego, if someone starts shouting, it's because they're emotionally invested and if that's the case, then they have an incentive to lie and to forego accuracy in order to win. If they're shouting, it's no longer a discussion, it's a debate.