The solution to the low birthrates is men leaving the cities, creating self-sufficient communities and enforcing their own rules there. Preferably outside of the US.

It needs to be random men who take charge and start their own movements. Anything that comes from the government, even something like taking women's rights away, will only result in more tyranny, not less.

So those expecting the Chinese or Russian governments to force women to breed, are hoping for the wrong thing.

There's this illusion that randomly increasing white birthrates will somehow help white people regain their countries/culture. It completely ignores the fact that whites are the ones enslaving themselves.
When a group is plagued by weak men betraying everyone for money/status, the solution isn't to spawn more of them, it's to cull the weak, regardless of their race.

This is why having the government take women's rights away won't help.
Only the strong may have kids, the rest mustn't be allowed.

@Based_Accelerationist

> It completely ignores the fact that whites are the ones enslaving themselves.

yes and no. technically true, but all of this comes from the top. this cannot be fixed from the bottom. so people have no way of fixing it themselves. either the rules will die off, go bankrupt or we're all fucked and they win. nature has a way of equalizing things, so once the situation gets out of whack too much, there will be natural pushback.

@Justicar How does it come from the top, when the ones enforcing the tyranny are the bottom? How does it come from the top when we've seen many different elites throughout history abuse their peasants (in very similar ways) because the masses are too numerous and too weak?

It does NOT come from the top. There will always be snakes to take advantage of the weak, the problem is the widespread weakness. We are the system, we the sheeple are the problem. Otherwise we would have solved it already.

@Based_Accelerationist @Justicar It is both because generally people as a whole are rather malleable. The strong organize and guide communities to their ends. Corruption exists in either system, but does generally allow the weak to proliferate. This always ebs and flows in civilization. It is not possible to ignore that the top guides a lot and things only are as they are through incentives and relative peace. They want to slow boil anarcho tyranny.

@FinalDresdonation You could remove "the top" plus all their institutions and the masses would still vote for free stuff and tyranny disguised as safety, they would replace the old snakes with new ones and very little would change in the long run. The problem is weak men and only a massive culling can solve that.

It's not because women vote that there's no peaceful solution either, it's because weak men are willing to fight you to protect women's rights (among other things). Votes mean nothing.

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@FinalDresdonation If you cull the bottom, the top is powerless to enforce their tyranny, if you get rid of the top, the bottom will remain weak and elect new tyrants. If you want to change the system, you need to change the people, not the politicians.

Indeed the top can only guide you and give incentives, it's the men who decide what happens.

And the men decided to police and serve the dystopia for money/status. They need to go, before wars are fought exclusively with machines.

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