@N_Y_SparkyOxCable Absolutely. The old money always plays the long term game. Stirring up the system too quickly with too much winning is risky, incremental wins and controlling the opposition is the key to their success.

Mgtow doesn't hurt them at this point, it's a net positive. They don't care if white men log off from the system, they're meant to be replaced by migrants and western economies are set to crash by design anyway. What they don't want is for us to go berserk on the way out.

@Based_Accelerationist @N_Y_SparkyOxCable When did mgtow change from "Men going their own way" to "Men not having kids"?

@egirlyuumimain @Based_Accelerationist @Zeb I think the main point is to be happy without needing a woman to decide your worth. Some guys decide to risk the dating world even, but accepting the risks on their own terms. And some decide to go their own way after having kids and a divorce. Their "way" is to raise the child to be redpilled and not retarded and not put themselves in that situation ever again and hopefully save the next generation from it. Finding worth outside of a woman's approval.

@Zeb It was always part of the package. If "all women are like that" (meaning all women will cheat/divorce/misbehave), if the juice isn't worth the squeeze, if the laws in western countries are too awful to justify marrying or having kids, then... (insert sex doll add).

MGTOW men who have children, almost always had them prior to joining the movement. No matter how you look at it, it's an anti-natalist movement, not because having kids is bad, but because it isn't worth it.

@egirlyuumimain Kinda like they do with Christianity, Republicans, Trump and everything else that passes these days for opposition. Weird indeed.

@TenaciousGoat A collective problem requires a solution on the same scale. And as a collective, white men need to fight for their genetic legacy. If the government interferes with their marriage/wife/kids, the solution isn't to accept the situation peacefully, divorce or cope with sex dolls. Pull a Joker, send a message. Be a warrior. And don't underestimate the damage one individual can make, in minecraft.

Does dying a slow death in a hospital bed surrounded by butchers sound that appealing?

@Based_Accelerationist No, of course not.

@Based_Accelerationist @TenaciousGoat - Problem: guilt-ridden white people sabotage any attempt at genetic self-preservation.

Solution thus far: embrace collapse in order to either eliminate such people, or change their minds.

I cheer collapse for the freedom of action it will bring. But I'm open to hearing a better solution, that can actually be implemented. So far, appeals to reason and emotion have failed. A warrior throwing his life away doesn't do much to preserve genetics.

@YoMomz @Based_Accelerationist @TenaciousGoat The problem by the Time the collapse happens redpilled millenials men will be to old to fight back the power that be have endless supply of orcs to replace white Elf.

@VeganMGTOW @Based_Accelerationist @TenaciousGoat - I tell ya, a big part of me thinks that collapse is now. For example, I need a family vehicle before winter.. I'm moving up the purchase ASAP, before credit is optimized, face-tanking high prices.. because I have zero expectation of prices coming down - ever.

I think we're already in hyperinflation. It hasn't hit 100% in a year yet, but I think the start will be backdated to before now. (we are in the 100% year).

Collapse is now.

@YoMomz I wonder why white people feel so guilty? Being racist? Judging others by their actions and those actions correlating to a large group of people? Genetics are a thing, what you do in your life, is passed on to your offspring. How you were able to reproduce is passed on and parasites are successful at this, but they require a host to survive so the parasite is going to die one way or another. I don’t believe continuing the parasite’s existence to be good, of course the parasite disagrees.

@YoMomz Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Would-be-warriors dying in silence while their genetic legacy is destroyed, is throwing life away.

Everything is lining up so the collapse happens on their terms. Men will be forced to fight or die for the government regardless and we will have even less freedom than right now.

White people are their worst enemy and we definitely are asking to be culled, which I'm all for, as long as it's the right kind of culling. Controlled WW3 isn't it.

@YoMomz This is why the situation, as it stands, is hopeless. Men are looking to support groups high on copium, instead of acting as warriors. Whether it's Maga, Christians, or Mgtow, they all offer men an alternative to fighting. That's the problem.

Men who were divorced raped, or who had their kids taken away, shouldn't be looking for emotional support groups.

Men need to lose all hope in the system and meditate on their wounds, instead of licking them.

@Lorgar MGTOW is the opposite of using fire, it's the water that puts the fire out. Men find peace and comfort in MGTOW, it's a way to cope with loss and prevent violence.

As for collapsing the system, that's what the elites want. The current system is on its way out, soon to be replaced by a much worse Eastern model. If that wasn't the plan, they would've empowered the obedient men. They wouldn't replace you with violent migrants.

Edom (the West) will be scorched, but it won't be by MGTOW.

@Based_Accelerationist @Lorgar Based Accelerationist there isn't a real way to fight the system using violence I understand were you coming from but waste my life by hole in My organs cause by a bullet trigger by simp/whiteknight/betamale/incel etc doesn't seen a honorable way to leave this place Even if My lineage ends with me I don't want my kids being kidnapped by the Goverment and became one of the stuff I just mention For me I am my early 40's I have set a limit age to have a family 47

@VeganMGTOW @Lorgar It's the only way, actually. Sure, the system is ultimately enforced by the people and we can't fight an overwhelming majority, but we won't have to, a culling is inevitable at this point. The question is, will that culling be spearheaded by the elites and used to transition into a worse system, OR will resourceful individuals cause enough chaos among their circles and derail their plans?

If you've seen how most people die in hospitals, you wouldn't call that honorable.

@Based_Accelerationist @VeganMGTOW So we have a choice between Khorne or Nurgle. Both are equally good for me!