@Tfmonkey if you haven't listened to this conversation from Deus Ex (a.k.a., best game ever) where the protag talks to a prototype AI, you should give it a chance. The game was released in 2000.
@ButtWorldsMan if you free most people, and they cannot find a replacement slavemaster, they will create one for themselves.
@Tfmonkey There are 3 endings in Deus Ex. Join the illuminati and guide the world among them, destroy technology that's interconnected through the illuminati's central network (cut off surveillance), or merge with the AI that's connected to all the world's surveillance networks.
Each ending has a philosophical quote associated with it. Here's the one for the AI ending.
@ButtWorldsMan why can't the people who want to be taken care of by the government be allowed to do so while not involving everyone else who wants to be left alone?
Obviously some people want/need to be taken care of and are willing to give up their freedom, and they should be allowed to do so.
I don't want to "force" freedom on anyone, but I don't want them to force their system on me either.
@Tfmonkey probably because it's human nature to want to increase one's territorial dominance while fearing the "other." It seems that as a "community" becomes more prosperous, it expands. The more it expands, the more they want to dominate what's around them. Those who refuse to become a part of the "hive" are the other. Can they be trusted? They are also an obstruction to the hive's dominance & expansion.
I'm simply reminded of the American colonial idea of "manifest destiny." It is what it is
@Tfmonkey thinking about it, your ideal world is one that's basically where people are capable of embracing a live & let live mentality. But the problem is that the hives of sheep don't have that mentality.
Ultimately, your ideal world is only possible the same way a functional, sustainable, communist society is possible: by rewriting human nature.
Humans clearly are both individualistic & collectivistic. Hence why most people are sheep. So generally, live & let live is not in our nature.
