@Engineer This phabb.o7 Zionist "Christian" is obviously protestant. "Christ cuck" is cope the intellectually lazy Adam Green types with little to no grasp of the Orthodox Christian theology.
@PatriarchsHittingMarks I prefer life affirming values, master morality, and an ontology that doesn't see the world as inherently evil and controlled by the devil.
@Engineer SeKo0Lar h0oMaNiSt atheist types have zero say on what is moral or just. If your claim is that Christianity is malevolent, then I must ask on what grounds and what is/are your standards on what is "wrong/bad/evil", etc.?
@PatriarchsHittingMarks Its a lot more fundamental than you're probably capable of really comprehending. It basically boils down to life affirming values. Christianity fundamentally rejects life and the world and praises only the afterlife above all. Attributes that christianity calls of the devil are actually of the ubermensch. The fact that you simplify things to wrong/bad/evil is proof of your lack of development. The ubermensch is beyond good and evil, inhuman and over human.
@Engineer You condescending tone does nothing but exemplify that arrogance begets ignorance. The worldview prism that you use to criticize Orthodox Christianity is not only inconsistent...but you, as a pagan, have zero epistemological grounding for what you may deem civil vs. evil/good vs. bad.
@PatriarchsHittingMarks Again, you're in a binary mindset. Good/evil. My arrogant tone comes from the frustration of having to constantly deal with this foreign childish mindset thats infected western culture, its nothing against you personally. There is no such thing as good or evil. These are illusions. There is only will to power. Epistemology itself is fundamentally bullshit, because its nothing more than an ontology to justify an opinion using rationalization.
@PatriarchsHittingMarks You're not saying anything I haven't heard before, and you're making a lot of assumptions (that are wrong) about me. Its all too trite and predictable. TLDR you need a sky genie to feel good and need to be commanded/told what and how to think to function at even a base level. But no matter how much it pains you, it is a fact that reality is without morality and exists independent of such silly human concepts.
@Engineer I've made caveats for the assumptions I've made about you.
I find it really rich that you complain about my presuppositions; did you gather all that straw up yourself?... because that last sentence (not the gotcha you think it is anyways), is quite the strawman you've built and attacked.
@PatriarchsHittingMarks @Engineer
Ngl, I love this discussion because that has been happening for centuries, word for word, between philosophers and religious zealots.
It's kinda enlightening to know humanity hasn't basically changed at all through all this time.
Personally I think Nietzsche put the final nail on all these points and we need to look further into what he couldn't foresee in his time: the differences of our modern world.
@Zeb @PatriarchsHittingMarks Fuck yes Nietzsche did. Its only the fear of death that keeps religion as we know it today alive. These cowards are too scared to die, so they need the promise of an afterlife to keep going.
@Engineer Your entire demeanor is the average boomer: "mUh sKy dAdDy".
Absolute adolescent rebelliousness.
@PatriarchsHittingMarks Keep worshipping a dead jew that compels you to prey for your enemies. See where such slave morality takes you.
@Engineer Oh yeah. Jesus Christ is just another jüden psy-op trick...which is WHY pharisees had him crucified and still write about how much they hate Him.
No anthropologists can deny His existence either (i.e.list of 500 martyrs that saw Christ around Golgotha for 40 days post resurrection).
@Engineer Of COURSE you're going to rattle off clear misinterpretations as gotchas! Hhahaha and you have the gall to call me predictable?! Hhahahaa noooo... ANOTHER boomer fail.
@PatriarchsHittingMarks Cope and seethe, these aren't "misinterpretations" they are literalist readings. You're the one whose twisting and mincing words to fit a narrative. "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" fuck that cucked shit, some crimes deserve to be punished harder than others.
@Engineer hahaa you don't know the theology enough to even make concise criticisms much less salient points against the celestial Father and His teachings.
You're just CHOCK full o' dated and refuted, low IQ talking points. Dawkins cuck exposed.
"Ascended masters" i.e. Siddhartha Gautama, Mohammed, etc. have all mentioned Iesuos as the Christ. Jesus claimed to know NO others. He is the way, the truth, and the light.
JESUS CHRIST IS KING of Kings and Lord of lords! Cope smarter, seethe harder.
@PatriarchsHittingMarks You literally worship a Jew, Rabbi Yeshua. How much more cucked can you get?
@Engineer there were 12 tribes... This has little to do with him being a "Jew" (which isn't even what you think it meant colloquially) and everything to do with him being the ultimate blood sacrifice...to defeat the exclusivity that Canaanites/khazars granted themselves.
@PatriarchsHittingMarks Its not a sacrifice when you use the dragonballs to uno-reverse card death.
@Engineer my claim initially was to test your faithlessness with the question of where you ground your morals from?
You then move the goal post when I cornered you to; "but morality not real when ho0mans not present." social construction argument... Total strawman.
@PatriarchsHittingMarks I answered your question. I don't believe in morality as a good or evil binary like you do.
@Engineer so you're saying everything is subjective. You're a relativist?
@PatriarchsHittingMarks Basically, but even then the subjectivity doesn't really matters because thats just opinion.
@Engineer you're literally a moral relativist and so self unaware in your rebellion against your Father, that you're blind to how the ideology you've adopted defeats itself.
@PatriarchsHittingMarks I am not a son of Adam descendant of Abraham. Your jewish laws come from a different creed and people than my own ancestors and do not apply to me. The only edict I have is to achieve the manifestation of the Ubermensch and thus the divination of man to god. You are forever a slave to jews, who think of themselves as "gods chosen people." The Virgin "We are Gods chosen people" Vs. The Giga-chad "We are Gods"
@Engineer The Northern pagan tribes were defeated by The Church for a reason.
You can go ahead and go back to your matriarchal tribes in the wilderness and fuck and breed incestuously in the name of your pagan deities, total chaos...I however, choose order and patriarchy.
@PatriarchsHittingMarks Matriarchy? What are you talking about? Hadrian enslaved the Jews, but failed to finish the job. I'm not into Asotruism, I'm far more brutal than the vikings ever were. I believe in dominance, wealth, vengeance, pride, glory, excellency, and exceptionalism. Christianity is a slave religion, even the modern elites of this world don't actually follow it. They use it to maintain control over the public, IE the slaves, IE YOU!
@Engineer Every time you make the claim that Christianity is weak/for the weak... you expose YOUR weakness, confirmation bias, and ignorance on theology and history.
Just a snippet.
https://youtu.be/95DbWV7wnxE?si=FvLP6ZIjkTN2j8DL
@PatriarchsHittingMarks Muslims are also dog poop. The path of the ubermensch is one of self improvement and inter-generational improvement until man becomes divine via post resource scarcity and hyper-intelligence. I'm not a protestant. Your jewish book has no power over me. It was almost completely made up by Rabbi Akiva, AKA "Paul the Apostle."
@Engineer Oh yEaHhHhh! "Christianity is a total Jewish psyop!"... which is why ZOG are lobbying to make more speech laws trying to control discussion and revelation of the new testament ergo new covenant (not exclusive to/for mUh cHo0sEn PeEp0h).
@Engineer you've probably only heard pop Christianity or mega churches preach about mercy...but you (along with all other faggot protestants) forget about conviction doctrine.
@Engineer Also, yes...vast majority of pagan tribes were matriarchal, and thus depraved, in absolute disorder, and disarray.
@PatriarchsHittingMarks Really? The Hellenic Greeks and Romans were matriarchal? Alexander the Great was a matriarch?
Julius Caesar was a matriarch? King Leonidas was a matriarch? Women weren't even allowed to leave their homes in most Greek cities, and they definitely weren't allowed to vote. Yet the entire modern christian world allows women to hold immense power and vote. You're not even allowed to have a harem of sex slaves under christianity. GTFO cuck.
@Engineer All deviations from my salient points and counterpoints. You're full of shit. Online LARPing...yappin about how much you miss when the world was pagan (totally disregarding the societal pathogens those civilizations produced... happening yet again, now that we've collectively strayed from God DUE TO jewish subversion).
Keep complaining about how you want a harem of slaves...which makes you no less of a beast than c0oMer Muslim degenerate swine that want their 72 virgins.
@PatriarchsHittingMarks I personally don't actually care for harems, I'm more of a ectogenesis kind of guy myself. But disregarding my personal plans, the modern world is cucked and afraid of even the smallest conflict because of its slave morality. Friedrich Nietzsche was 100% correct in his assessment. Do not tell me of martyrdom, martyrs who allow themselves to be killed and don't die fighting are cucks that deserved it because they let it happen to them. I believe in blood and might.
@Engineer I know what you believe...literal copy/paste atheist boomers that adopted scientism along with their relativistic gobbledygook.
"WiLl t0 p0oWeR, MiGhT mAkeS RiGht, etc."
@PatriarchsHittingMarks Its infinitely superior to worshipping a jew.
@Engineer your reductionist arguments hold no water. What did being a "Jew" mean then?...As opposed to colloquial meanings?
@Engineer This only breeds nihilism and does not answer any questions. You relegate self to being plasmic amalgamations of cosmic stardust.
If you truly believe in no Creator, then you're willingly blinding yourself to understanding the creation...as well as ANY eschatological teachings.
If you were a logically consistent SeKo0Lar h0oMaNiSt/atheist (almost oxymoronic), you would ky family and self. Descendants of bacteria would LOVE to find me as faithless and lost at sea, as them.